Hi folks,
I'll be back in Ireland in January, working part-time for the FSFE and wanted to see if there is some movement in the Irish chapter these days? Those monthly meetings are still happening or? I'll be based in Cork but wouldn't mind moving around.
Luke
Hi Luke,
IFSO has not really been active for a while, I'm afraid. We still have the mailing list, but we haven't physically met for a couple of years. There was a bit of a boost to interest and attendance after a talk Richard Stallman gave in Dublin back in February 2013, but it waned again. Since then, we have taken part, via written submissions, in a couple of public consultations at national and EU levels. Having said all that, a few of us do meet up for a pint or two in Dublin quite often anyway, outside the IFSO umbrella, so give us a shout if you're visiting Dublin, and I would think we could dust off the stuffed gnu and meet up!
Ben.
On 22 December 2016 at 16:27, Luke Murphy lukewm@riseup.net wrote:
Hi folks,
I'll be back in Ireland in January, working part-time for the FSFE and wanted to see if there is some movement in the Irish chapter these days? Those monthly meetings are still happening or? I'll be based in Cork but wouldn't mind moving around.
Luke
Hi Ben!
That's a shame. My plans changed and I'm out of Ireland again but when I pass through Dublin, I'll drop you a line here.
Thanks for the info!
Best, Luke
On 30.12.2016 23:40, Ben North wrote:
Hi Luke,
IFSO has not really been active for a while, I'm afraid. We still have the mailing list, but we haven't physically met for a couple of years. There was a bit of a boost to interest and attendance after a talk Richard Stallman gave in Dublin back in February 2013, but it waned again. Since then, we have taken part, via written submissions, in a couple of public consultations at national and EU levels. Having said all that, a few of us do meet up for a pint or two in Dublin quite often anyway, outside the IFSO umbrella, so give us a shout if you're visiting Dublin, and I would think we could dust off the stuffed gnu and meet up!
Ben.
On 22 December 2016 at 16:27, Luke Murphy <lukewm@riseup.net mailto:lukewm@riseup.net> wrote:
Hi folks, I'll be back in Ireland in January, working part-time for the FSFE and wanted to see if there is some movement in the Irish chapter these days? Those monthly meetings are still happening or? I'll be based in Cork but wouldn't mind moving around. Luke
Hi there folks,
I'll be in Dublin from Tuesday until Friday this week. Anyone around?
There is a new campaign in the making, being driven by the FSFE, that seems like it would be easy to push on the Irish side! It's called 'Public Money, Public Code'. Check out the preliminary work:
https://wiki.fsfe.org/Activities/PublicProcurementForNonFreeSoftware
Anyone interested in joining forces to fire off a few FOI requests? Has there been any work done in this space?
Also, anyone associated with or know someone from CodeForIreland?
Luke
GSM/WA : +353 85 728 2132
On 10.01.2017 10:59, Luke Murphy wrote:
Hi Ben!
That's a shame. My plans changed and I'm out of Ireland again but when I pass through Dublin, I'll drop you a line here.
Thanks for the info!
Best, Luke
On 30.12.2016 23:40, Ben North wrote:
Hi Luke,
IFSO has not really been active for a while, I'm afraid. We still have the mailing list, but we haven't physically met for a couple of years. There was a bit of a boost to interest and attendance after a talk Richard Stallman gave in Dublin back in February 2013, but it waned again. Since then, we have taken part, via written submissions, in a couple of public consultations at national and EU levels. Having said all that, a few of us do meet up for a pint or two in Dublin quite often anyway, outside the IFSO umbrella, so give us a shout if you're visiting Dublin, and I would think we could dust off the stuffed gnu and meet up!
Ben.
On 22 December 2016 at 16:27, Luke Murphy <lukewm@riseup.net mailto:lukewm@riseup.net> wrote:
Hi folks, I'll be back in Ireland in January, working part-time for the FSFE and wanted to see if there is some movement in the Irish chapter these days? Those monthly meetings are still happening or? I'll be based in Cork but wouldn't mind moving around. Luke
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Hi Luke,
I'm fairly new to IFSO and have never been to any of the IFSO meetings yet, but talking about Code For Ireland I've been to their meetups before and know one of the projects' lead. I'm around this week and can meet after work.
Code For Ireland used to run events together with Open Knowledge Ireland. Haven't seen Open Knowledge Ireland running meetup for a while but there are people working with government data in Code For Ireland. In addition there is also DataKind Dublin who sometimes run hackathons for putting public data or charity data to good use.
There is also a Dublin Open Source Meetup which mainly gives talks on open source software and how to contribute etc. They have a meetup coming up on Feb 21st: https://www.meetup.com/dublin-oss/
Hope this information is helpful.
Regards,
Panpan
On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Luke Murphy lukewm@riseup.net wrote:
Hi there folks,
I'll be in Dublin from Tuesday until Friday this week. Anyone around?
There is a new campaign in the making, being driven by the FSFE, that seems like it would be easy to push on the Irish side! It's called 'Public Money, Public Code'. Check out the preliminary work:
https://wiki.fsfe.org/Activities/PublicProcurementForNonFreeSoftwareAnyone interested in joining forces to fire off a few FOI requests? Has there been any work done in this space?
Also, anyone associated with or know someone from CodeForIreland?
http://codeforireland.com/Luke
GSM/WA : +353 85 728 2132
On 10.01.2017 10:59, Luke Murphy wrote:
Hi Ben!
That's a shame. My plans changed and I'm out of Ireland again but when I pass through Dublin, I'll drop you a line here.
Thanks for the info!
Best, Luke
On 30.12.2016 23:40, Ben North wrote:
Hi Luke,
IFSO has not really been active for a while, I'm afraid. We still have the mailing list, but we haven't physically met for a couple of years. There was a bit of a boost to interest and attendance after a talk Richard Stallman gave in Dublin back in February 2013, but it waned again. Since then, we have taken part, via written submissions, in a couple of public consultations at national and EU levels. Having said all that, a few of us do meet up for a pint or two in Dublin quite often anyway, outside the IFSO umbrella, so give us a shout if you're visiting Dublin, and I would think we could dust off the stuffed gnu and meet up!
Ben.
On 22 December 2016 at 16:27, Luke Murphy <lukewm@riseup.net mailto:lukewm@riseup.net> wrote:
Hi folks, I'll be back in Ireland in January, working part-time for the FSFEand
wanted to see if there is some movement in the Irish chapter thesedays?
Those monthly meetings are still happening or? I'll be based inCork but
wouldn't mind moving around. Luke
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Thank you Panpan!!! That's a great start. I'd love to meet this week and bounce some more questions off you. Will drop you a line on your personal mail.
Best,
Luke
On 29.01.2017 23:32, Panpan Lin wrote:
Hi Luke,
I'm fairly new to IFSO and have never been to any of the IFSO meetings yet, but talking about Code For Ireland I've been to their meetups before and know one of the projects' lead. I'm around this week and can meet after work.
Code For Ireland used to run events together with Open Knowledge Ireland. Haven't seen Open Knowledge Ireland running meetup for a while but there are people working with government data in Code For Ireland. In addition there is also DataKind Dublin who sometimes run hackathons for putting public data or charity data to good use.
There is also a Dublin Open Source Meetup which mainly gives talks on open source software and how to contribute etc. They have a meetup coming up on Feb 21st: https://www.meetup.com/dublin-oss/
Hope this information is helpful.
Regards,
Panpan
On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Luke Murphy <lukewm@riseup.net mailto:lukewm@riseup.net> wrote:
Hi there folks, I'll be in Dublin from Tuesday until Friday this week. Anyone around? There is a new campaign in the making, being driven by the FSFE, that seems like it would be easy to push on the Irish side! It's called 'Public Money, Public Code'. Check out the preliminary work: https://wiki.fsfe.org/Activities/PublicProcurementForNonFreeSoftware <https://wiki.fsfe.org/Activities/PublicProcurementForNonFreeSoftware> Anyone interested in joining forces to fire off a few FOI requests? Has there been any work done in this space? Also, anyone associated with or know someone from CodeForIreland? http://codeforireland.com/ Luke GSM/WA : +353 85 728 2132 <tel:%2B353%2085%20728%202132> On 10.01.2017 10:59, Luke Murphy wrote: > Hi Ben! > > That's a shame. My plans changed and I'm out of Ireland again but when I > pass through Dublin, I'll drop you a line here. > > Thanks for the info! > > Best, > Luke > > On 30.12.2016 23 <tel:30.12.2016%2023>:40, Ben North wrote: >> Hi Luke, >> >> IFSO has not really been active for a while, I'm afraid. We still have >> the mailing list, but we haven't physically met for a couple of years. >> There was a bit of a boost to interest and attendance after a talk >> Richard Stallman gave in Dublin back in February 2013, but it waned >> again. Since then, we have taken part, via written submissions, in a >> couple of public consultations at national and EU levels. Having said >> all that, a few of us do meet up for a pint or two in Dublin quite often >> anyway, outside the IFSO umbrella, so give us a shout if you're visiting >> Dublin, and I would think we could dust off the stuffed gnu and meet up! >> >> Ben. >> >> >> >> On 22 December 2016 at 16:27, Luke Murphy <lukewm@riseup.net <mailto:lukewm@riseup.net> >> <mailto:lukewm@riseup.net <mailto:lukewm@riseup.net>>> wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> I'll be back in Ireland in January, working part-time for the FSFE and >> wanted to see if there is some movement in the Irish chapter these days? >> Those monthly meetings are still happening or? I'll be based in Cork but >> wouldn't mind moving around. >> >> Luke >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > fsfe-ie@lists.fsfe.org <mailto:fsfe-ie@lists.fsfe.org> mailing list > List information: http://mail.lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fsfe-ie <http://mail.lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fsfe-ie> > Public archive: https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-ie <https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-ie> > _______________________________________________ fsfe-ie@lists.fsfe.org <mailto:fsfe-ie@lists.fsfe.org> mailing list List information: http://mail.lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fsfe-ie <http://mail.lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fsfe-ie> Public archive: https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-ie <https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-ie>
Hi Luke,
I'll be in Dublin from Tuesday until Friday this week. Anyone around?
OK, great. Let's declare an IFSO meeting this coming Thursday (2nd Feb), at 8pm in the Long Stone pub, Townsend Street, Dublin.
All welcome!
Ben.
Awesome. See you all there!
On 30.01.2017 22:10, Ben North wrote:
Hi Luke,
I'll be in Dublin from Tuesday until Friday this week. Anyone around?OK, great. Let's declare an IFSO meeting this coming Thursday (2nd Feb), at 8pm in the Long Stone pub, Townsend Street, Dublin.
All welcome!
Ben.
fsfe-ie@lists.fsfe.org mailing list List information: http://mail.lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fsfe-ie Public archive: https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-ie
We're by the giant carved head fireplace at the back!
On 30 Jan 2017 22:10, "Ben North" ben@redfrontdoor.org wrote:
Hi Luke,
I'll be in Dublin from Tuesday until Friday this week. Anyone around?
OK, great. Let's declare an IFSO meeting this coming Thursday (2nd Feb), at 8pm in the Long Stone pub, Townsend Street, Dublin.
All welcome!
Ben.
sorry missed you this time. lets revitalize and do it again.
On 2 February 2017 at 20:09, Ben North ben@redfrontdoor.org wrote:
We're by the giant carved head fireplace at the back!
On 30 Jan 2017 22:10, "Ben North" ben@redfrontdoor.org wrote:
Hi Luke,
I'll be in Dublin from Tuesday until Friday this week. Anyone around?
OK, great. Let's declare an IFSO meeting this coming Thursday (2nd Feb), at 8pm in the Long Stone pub, Townsend Street, Dublin.
All welcome!
Ben.
fsfe-ie@lists.fsfe.org mailing list List information: http://mail.lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fsfe-ie Public archive: https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-ie
Hi,
Thanks, everyone, for attending our re-invigoration meeting last night. Good turn-out and good to see some new faces. That was the first Thursday of the month; as it turns out I can't make the matching day in March (2nd) but we could go for 9th March if that suits people? Or are other days of the week better? It would be good to keep our new-found momentum going, so please say (replying just to me if you want to avoid list clutter) which days suit you.
Ben.
On 30 January 2017 at 22:10, Ben North ben@redfrontdoor.org wrote:
Hi Luke,
I'll be in Dublin from Tuesday until Friday this week. Anyone around?
OK, great. Let's declare an IFSO meeting this coming Thursday (2nd Feb), at 8pm in the Long Stone pub, Townsend Street, Dublin.
All welcome!
Ben.
Hey Ben,
Yes, it was very cool to meet you all. Free on the 9th, that would suit just fine. Hope we can all keep it going ;)
Regarding the 'Public Money, Public Code' campaign meeting, here is what I learned: the campaign is in 'stealth mode' until an official release in May/June 2017 because they would first like to:
1) Make a motivational, multilingual video. 2) Gather as much information through FOI and related methods to support the cases across Europe. Anything goes! 3) Make a modern, multilingual website.
There is a career politician from the pirate party behind this, so she is driving the public relations aspect. Check out the archives and future work via the mailing list. It's an open campaign and all are welcome:
https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-campaign-team
They expect the campaign to run for 2 years or so. Of course, this doesn't mean we can't get moving now. In fact, we can do a lot to help in the research. We could:
1) Document who is who in the Irish governmental software scene. What are the moving parts and who is who. Draw out the map. 2) Document how we write a good FOI. What do we even ask? Who to send it to and what to expect? What to do with the results?
Can anyone else think of other easy things to start off with? Maybe we could start to brainstorm on or off list on some concrete, short term goals we'd like to achieve?
Regarding point 2, the Germans have FragDenStaat:
It makes it really easy to submit an FOI request. Does Ireland have one of these? If not, let's make this! It's a low hanging fruit and can really raise awareness. It will make it more convenient to drive this campaign forward when we can just fire these things off.
We could roll our own or use:
Brain dump over and out!
Best,
Luke
On 03.02.2017 20:58, Ben North wrote:
Hi,
Thanks, everyone, for attending our re-invigoration meeting last night. Good turn-out and good to see some new faces. That was the first Thursday of the month; as it turns out I can't make the matching day in March (2nd) but we could go for 9th March if that suits people? Or are other days of the week better? It would be good to keep our new-found momentum going, so please say (replying just to me if you want to avoid list clutter) which days suit you.
Ben.
On 30 January 2017 at 22:10, Ben North <ben@redfrontdoor.org mailto:ben@redfrontdoor.org> wrote:
Hi Luke, I'll be in Dublin from Tuesday until Friday this week. Anyone around? OK, great. Let's declare an IFSO meeting this coming Thursday (2nd Feb), at 8pm in the Long Stone pub, Townsend Street, Dublin. https://longstonepub.com/ All welcome! Ben.
fsfe-ie@lists.fsfe.org mailing list List information: http://mail.lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fsfe-ie Public archive: https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-ie
Oh, this one is up and running!
https://www.asktheeu.org/en/search/ireland/all
Good stuff there. Any others?
Sorry for the list noise ;)
Luke
On 04.02.2017 00:19, Luke Murphy wrote:
Hey Ben,
Yes, it was very cool to meet you all. Free on the 9th, that would suit just fine. Hope we can all keep it going ;)
Regarding the 'Public Money, Public Code' campaign meeting, here is what I learned: the campaign is in 'stealth mode' until an official release in May/June 2017 because they would first like to:
- Make a motivational, multilingual video.
- Gather as much information through FOI and related methods to support the cases across Europe. Anything goes!
- Make a modern, multilingual website.
There is a career politician from the pirate party behind this, so she is driving the public relations aspect. Check out the archives and future work via the mailing list. It's an open campaign and all are welcome:
https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-campaign-teamThey expect the campaign to run for 2 years or so. Of course, this doesn't mean we can't get moving now. In fact, we can do a lot to help in the research. We could:
- Document who is who in the Irish governmental software scene. What are the moving parts and who is who. Draw out the map.
- Document how we write a good FOI. What do we even ask? Who to send it to and what to expect? What to do with the results?
Can anyone else think of other easy things to start off with? Maybe we could start to brainstorm on or off list on some concrete, short term goals we'd like to achieve?
Regarding point 2, the Germans have FragDenStaat:
https://fragdenstaat.de/It makes it really easy to submit an FOI request. Does Ireland have one of these? If not, let's make this! It's a low hanging fruit and can really raise awareness. It will make it more convenient to drive this campaign forward when we can just fire these things off.
We could roll our own or use:
http://alaveteli.org/Brain dump over and out!
Best,
Luke
On 03.02.2017 20:58, Ben North wrote:
Hi,
Thanks, everyone, for attending our re-invigoration meeting last night. Good turn-out and good to see some new faces. That was the first Thursday of the month; as it turns out I can't make the matching day in March (2nd) but we could go for 9th March if that suits people? Or are other days of the week better? It would be good to keep our new-found momentum going, so please say (replying just to me if you want to avoid list clutter) which days suit you.
Ben.
On 30 January 2017 at 22:10, Ben North <ben@redfrontdoor.org mailto:ben@redfrontdoor.org> wrote:
Hi Luke, I'll be in Dublin from Tuesday until Friday this week. Anyone around? OK, great. Let's declare an IFSO meeting this coming Thursday (2nd Feb), at 8pm in the Long Stone pub, Townsend Street, Dublin. https://longstonepub.com/ All welcome! Ben.
fsfe-ie@lists.fsfe.org mailing list List information: http://mail.lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fsfe-ie Public archive: https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-ie
fsfe-ie@lists.fsfe.org mailing list List information: http://mail.lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fsfe-ie Public archive: https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-ie
Folks, I've been searching the data.gov.ie platform:
I can't see **any** technology related department? You know, I'm not really sure who I should be looking for. All I could find is the LGMA:
http://www.lgma.ie/en/what-we-do
Anyone have any insights here? I'd like to push for data release on this platform related to software procurement and use, alongside the FOI requests.
https://data.gov.ie/dataset/suggest
Best,
Luke
On 04.02.2017 01:29, Luke Murphy wrote:
Oh, this one is up and running!
https://www.asktheeu.org/en/search/ireland/allGood stuff there. Any others?
Sorry for the list noise ;)
Luke
On 04.02.2017 00:19, Luke Murphy wrote:
Hey Ben,
Yes, it was very cool to meet you all. Free on the 9th, that would suit just fine. Hope we can all keep it going ;)
Regarding the 'Public Money, Public Code' campaign meeting, here is what I learned: the campaign is in 'stealth mode' until an official release in May/June 2017 because they would first like to:
- Make a motivational, multilingual video.
- Gather as much information through FOI and related methods to support the cases across Europe. Anything goes!
- Make a modern, multilingual website.
There is a career politician from the pirate party behind this, so she is driving the public relations aspect. Check out the archives and future work via the mailing list. It's an open campaign and all are welcome:
https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-campaign-teamThey expect the campaign to run for 2 years or so. Of course, this doesn't mean we can't get moving now. In fact, we can do a lot to help in the research. We could:
- Document who is who in the Irish governmental software scene. What are the moving parts and who is who. Draw out the map.
- Document how we write a good FOI. What do we even ask? Who to send it to and what to expect? What to do with the results?
Can anyone else think of other easy things to start off with? Maybe we could start to brainstorm on or off list on some concrete, short term goals we'd like to achieve?
Regarding point 2, the Germans have FragDenStaat:
https://fragdenstaat.de/It makes it really easy to submit an FOI request. Does Ireland have one of these? If not, let's make this! It's a low hanging fruit and can really raise awareness. It will make it more convenient to drive this campaign forward when we can just fire these things off.
We could roll our own or use:
http://alaveteli.org/Brain dump over and out!
Best,
Luke
On 03.02.2017 20:58, Ben North wrote:
Hi,
Thanks, everyone, for attending our re-invigoration meeting last night. Good turn-out and good to see some new faces. That was the first Thursday of the month; as it turns out I can't make the matching day in March (2nd) but we could go for 9th March if that suits people? Or are other days of the week better? It would be good to keep our new-found momentum going, so please say (replying just to me if you want to avoid list clutter) which days suit you.
Ben.
On 30 January 2017 at 22:10, Ben North <ben@redfrontdoor.org mailto:ben@redfrontdoor.org> wrote:
Hi Luke, I'll be in Dublin from Tuesday until Friday this week. Anyone around? OK, great. Let's declare an IFSO meeting this coming Thursday (2nd Feb), at 8pm in the Long Stone pub, Townsend Street, Dublin. https://longstonepub.com/ All welcome! Ben.
fsfe-ie@lists.fsfe.org mailing list List information: http://mail.lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fsfe-ie Public archive: https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-ie
fsfe-ie@lists.fsfe.org mailing list List information: http://mail.lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fsfe-ie Public archive: https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-ie
I'd like to push for data release on this platform [data.gov.ie] related to software procurement and use, alongside the FOI requests.
I think when we last looked at this, we picked a few big departments (e.g., Finance) and asked them directly via FOI. I don't recall the details of the responses, sorry, but we did get some. Having the Irish State's software licensing costs on data.gov.ie would be nice!
Great! OK, I'm on the move at the moment, but will focus on drawing up a whole bunch of questions for the FOIs this coming week. I'll post to list when I have something concrete.
On 07.02.2017 22:48, Ben North wrote:
I'd like to push for data release on this platform [data.gov.ie] related to software procurement and use, alongside the FOI requests.
I think when we last looked at this, we picked a few big departments (e.g., Finance) and asked them directly via FOI. I don't recall the details of the responses, sorry, but we did get some. Having the Irish State's software licensing costs on data.gov.ie would be nice!