Talos II (FSF RYF candidate)

Lionel Elie Mamane lionel at mamane.lu
Sun Sep 16 13:57:13 UTC 2018


On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 08:25:41AM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote:
> Would any of the boosts in sales be also attributed to the current
> intel security issues, spectre, meltdown and more recent problems
> that affect intel architecture.  I would assume that power9 does not
> suffer from similar problems, (not that we should be complacent) so
> this combined with freedom and open hardware is welcome.

I'm very doubtful about Power9 not having such issues, unless:
 - it does not use speculative execution at all
   (and how does it manage being high-performance?)
 - it does not have the "separate VM" features at all

It is less widespread, so maybe nobody has found / publicised an
attack yet...

> On 14/09/18 22:36, Timothy Pearson wrote:
> > On 09/14/2018 04:02 PM, Paul Boddie wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 12. September 2017 16.07.12 Timothy Pearson wrote:
> >>> Just wanted to pass this along from the FSF on this side of the pond in
> >>> case you haven't seen it yet:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/support-the-talos-ii-a-candidate-for-respects-your-freedom-certification-by-pre-ordering-by-september-15
> > 
> >> One year later and it looks like this is available to purchase:
> > 
> >> https://raptorcs.com/TALOSII/
> > 
> >> Is that correct and why didn't you keep us posted? ;-) Have you had much 
> >> interest from the Free Software community?
> > 
> >> Paul
> > 
> > Yes, it's true! :-)  We've been selling these machines for the better
> > part of a year now, and so far the reception has been quite positive.
> > 
> > We'll have some of our hardware available on display / for live demo at
> > the OpenPOWER Summit in Amsterdam [1] if anyone is interested in trying
> > one out live...
> > 
> > [1] https://openpowerfoundation.org/summit-2018-10-eu/
> > 
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