Free software and open source philosophies differ, sometimes with radically different outcomes
natacha at lesoiseaux.io
Wed Nov 22 10:54:13 UTC 2017
This thread is very interesting and it seems that a new discourse is
developed by FSFE representatives, that is not so much shared by many
people on this list.
Re: Free software and open source philosophies differ, sometimes with
radically different outcomes
Heiki Lõhmus <repentinus at fsfe.org>
11/21/2017 06:55 PM
discussion at lists.fsfe.org
> My preferred term is Free Software because I believe
> individual freedom to be the highest political goal or utility and Free
> Software safeguards every individual's freedom and control over their
As antecedently said in many posts, it clearly appears that to preserve
individual freedom we should actively build a different social
organization since the one we are in now is clearly based of restraining
individual freedom by surveillance and exploitation (of human and
natural resources). Of course I understand individual freedom as the
freedom of every individual on the planet not only the richest, but I
know this is not a widely shared view of individual freedom.
> I have no communitarian leanings beyond recognizing that
> cooperating in communities is a valid exercise of any individual's
> freedom of association,
Well this is quite sad to hear from someone who is is vice president of
an important community based structure acting for free software.
> and I am decidedly pro-business as a valid
> exercise of individual freedom too.
Business as individual freedom, this is interesting viewpoint, it seems
like a very politically oriented assertion and certainly pro-capitalist.
Can you be a bit more precise please, as far as I know there are many
type of businesses and a very unequal spectrum where big corporations
develop extensive amounts of power while individuals or smaller
organizations struggle to get important projects out.
> While I prefer the term Free Software, I also recognize that in the
> vast majority of cases contributions from people whose preferred term is
> Open Source also lead to increased individual choice and control over
> their device.
Well the issue here is not only from person to person, indeed what one
person uses as a terminology does not really matter, nor does it allow
to under-evaluate that persons contribution, however the term open
source has been consciously differentiated in order to fulfill the needs
of capitalists, resulting in many projects led by monopolistic
corporations that certainly do not serve individual freedom. First
obvious example, the use that is made of android, or so many other
> This is true of contributions from large corporations too,
> and where any particular user disagrees with the corporation's
> direction, they are free to fork the project.
Seems easy indeed ... but you do not seem to acknowledge that large
corporations have an infrastructure and revenues that others don't have.
Android was forked its a one man's project running on a negligible
number of devices , its obviously impossible to compete.
Following the "winners takes it all " scheme, or "first come first
served" (or other great assertions) major corporations embedded in the
financial capitalism, have developed without direct competition, which
makes it impossible for others to exist alongside their massive
businesses fed by data brokerage, and many more nasty stuff.
> Less complaining and more
> use of the four freedoms would be entirely appropriate in such cases.
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