Hello.
I am here to propose a collaboration between gnupdf.org people and
pdfreaders.org people.
Let's liberate pdf. :)
We included a link to http://www.pdfreaders.org in
http://www.gnupdf.org
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[2 Re: linking to gnu pdf.eml <message/rfc822 (7bit)>]
To: Graziano Sorbaioli <arc(a)gnu.org>
Cc: feedback(a)pdfreaders.org
Subject: Re: linking to gnu pdf
From: Matthias Kirschner <mk(a)fsfe.org>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:20:07 +0100
Hi Graziano,
* Graziano Sorbaioli <arc(a)gnu.org> [2008-12-16 16:54:50 +0100]:
> great website but I would link it to the gnupdf.org website.
Yes, you're right we should also add a link to this page in the more
information part. Henner, Stian: Can you take care of that?
Do you know them? It would be good if they could also add a link to
pdfreaders.org.
> Let's work together to liberate pdf. :)
Yeah :)
Best wishes,
Matthias
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Here the new PR proposal by Georg. Hannes, Henner, Stian, is that fine
with you?
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I've now tried to upgrade the pages according to comments and
agreements.
You can find the drafts here:
http://pdfreaders.org/index-new.htmlhttp://pdfreaders.org/graphics-new.htmlhttp://pdfreaders.org/contact-new.html
What I've done:
* Changed front page text
- Did we also want to list the four freedoms?
- Do we want to preserve the text below the table?
* Alphabetised the readers
* Added Okular to win/mac
- Do you agree with my links (link to installer for win, link to
download page for mac)
* Made footer translatable
* Added SVG sources for the graphics
* Added placeholder for licence text.
- Did we agree on which licence to use for the graphics? I'd say we
should use a public domain licence as to avvoid the necessity for
attribution.
* Not changed the page title
- The page title is fetched dynamically according to language. If I
change it to "pdfreaders.org - Get a Free Software PDF reader!" it will
be in English regardless of language selection. Do we want this?
* Not done anything about GnuPDF
- If I understood it correctly, this was intended for an about page. Do
we wait with including this until the next upgrade which features more
info on PDF in general?
all the best,
/Stian
Hi Stian,
I really like the new graphics on
http://pdfreaders.julipan.org/graphics.html.
When we go live we should ask all distributors to use this buttons :)
(Perhaps even in the PR?)
Best wishes,
Matthias
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Hi all,
I've now written an initial draft for the press release.
It is currently a short document, with only two paragraphs, but does
refer to all the aspects of the site. If we want to expand the document
further, it should probably be with information on the Fellowship itself
and the process leading up to the site; the history of pdfreaders.org if
you will. That could include some comments from the initiators of the
campaign (Hannes+Henner?) and more on their (your) motivation for
starting the initiative.
Keeping it short is not a bad idea either, IMO. It would be sufficient
to brush up on the contents and include a basic text on the Fellowship.
What do you think?
all the best,
/Stian
Hello,
I am the Okular maintainer, and I just knew about the pdfreaders.org
initiative, nice!
I have just few notes/questions more:
a) I'd like to put a button (and a link) in okular.kde.org to pdfreaders.org,
but the current graphics is basically a "get reader" one, that does not look
quite ideal when a user is already visiting the website of one of the readers
of the initiative ;) Is there a button just to "promote" the site?
b) Could you please add http://mac.kde.org as MacOSX source, and
http://windows.kde.org as Windows source? (both for Okular only, of course)
c) KPDF is basically almost unmaintained (Okular is its KDE 4 replacement and
enhanced version), so could you put it at the end of the software list?
Cheers,
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Hey, I just figured out that https://www.pdfreaders.org/ redirects to fsfeurope.org
Can Cri (Cri is the name of the sysadmin, isn't it?) fix that?
Greetings
HennR
According to Shane, attribution cannot be waived by a licence in most
European countries, so WTFPL would probably not be much more valid than
a Public Domain licence.
What do we do? Should we perhaps just allow attributionless use
explicitly on the page and not bother with any particular licence?
best,
/Stian
-------- Forwarded Message --------
From: Shane Martin Coughlan <coughlan(a)fsfeurope.org>
Reply-to: coughlan(a)fsfeurope.org
To: Stian Rødven Eide <stian(a)fsfeurope.org>
Cc: team <team(a)fsfeurope.org>
Subject: Re: Using WTFPL as licence for PDFreaders graphics
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:54:42 +0000
Stian Rødven Eide wrote:
> We wish to license the buttons on pdfreaders.org under a licence that
> doesn't require attribution of any sort. Since Creative Commons' Public
> Domain licence may not be valid outside the US, it was suggested that we
> use the WTFPL (Do What The Fuck You Want To Public License). Does anyone
> have any objections to or comments on this?
> The licence is available at http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/
You cannot remove authorship in most European countries, so attribution
cannot be removed by a licence.
I suggest using a very permissive licence with a simply grant (like two
clause BSD). However, attribution is likely to be required.
Shane
Hi all,
As pdfreaders.org has been running for some weeks and we have received a
few comments regarding the pages that should be acted upon, it is time
to do a little brush-up. If you have any comments or ideas, and would
like to discuss the proposed changes, please sign up to
pdfreaders(a)lists.fsfe.org where the discussion will take place. The
direct signup-link is https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/pdfreaders
The comments received so far are:
* Footer translation
* Moving text to "about"
* Fixing css and adding wrappers for ie compatibility
* Alphabetize the readers
* Add more buttons (+ sources and license)
* Add more readers? GSview? Gnupdf.org
all the best,
/Stian
Hi Stian,
can you make the "Download" link in the table for Okular Windows +
MacOSX in a bracket in the new version: "(Download)"? So we don't have
to explain and discuss what a developer version is, etc.
Henner and Hannes both think that is ok.
Best wishes,
Matthias
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