FSFE-IE May 2005

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Wiki upgrade
by Glenn Strong 20 May '05

20 May '05

Hi folks, We upgraded the wiki software at ifso.ie last night, as part of a move to a new server. As a result you can once more edit pages without being logged in; the new software has some anti-spam measures so we're going back to a more open set of permissions. If you should encounter any problems please let me or the webmaster know. Many thanks to Michele Neylon from blacknight, who supplied swift and efficient support during the changeover. -- Glenn Strong

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Open debate on software patents at EP 2.6.2005
by Teresa Hackett 19 May '05

19 May '05

Thanks to edri-ip list ------ FYI: The Greens in the European parliament invite you to an ultimate conference on software patents: Free Software versus Software Patents Chaired by MEPs Monica Frassoni and Eva Lichtenberger June 2nd, 2005, from 9.30 to 13.00 European Parliament, Brussels, Room ASP 1G2 The "Software Patents" Directive is back in the European Parliament. It will be adopted by the Committee on Legal Affairs on June 20/21th. The plenary session will debate and the text in second reading during the first week of July. This conference takes place at a crucial moment of the intense debate on the software patents. The impact software patents would have on Free Software is one of the key elements of the debate. Could Free/Libre/Open-Source software (FLOSS) still flourish in the European Union if the Directive legalizes software patents? We've gathered key representatives of the FLOSS community, from the public sector, private sector, and civil society, to debate this topic. The conference will be followed by a buffet on Square du Luxembourg. Later the same day a demonstration against software patents organized by Association Electronique Libre and Open Standaarden will take place and we invite all of you to attend see http://demo.ael.be <http://demo.ael.be/> . We also recommend attending the conference on 1st June organized by FFII and 4 EPP Members of the European Parliament see http://swpat.ffii.org/events/2005/bxl0601/ <http://swpat.ffii.org/events/2005/bxl0601/> DRAFT PROGRAMME 9.30 Keynote speech : Richard M. Stallman, Free Software Foundation 10.00 Panel I: Patents and FLOSS Dan Ravisher executive Director for the Public Patent Foundation (to be confirmed) Robert Sutor, Vice President for Open Standards and Open Source Software, IBM Corporation: IBM's patent policy David Sant, European Patent Office 10.45 Debate 11.15 Panel II: FLOSS-based commerce A representative of Sun Microsystems David Axmark, CEO of MySQL Jiri Gaisler, CEO of Gaisler 12.00 Debate 12.30 Keynote speech : Alan Cox, Founder of Red Hat Participation is free however it is mandatory to register : http://greens-efa.org/pdf/agenda/Freesoftwareandsoftwarepatents/index.php <http://greens-efa.org/pdf/agenda/Freesoftwareandsoftwarepatents/index.php>

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Software patents
by Malcolm Tyrrell 19 May '05

19 May '05

The parliament has produced a set of new amendments: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/18/patents_rocard_draft/ http://wiki.ffii.org/Amends05En Good luck, Malcohol. _________________________________________________________________ Sign up for eircom broadband now and get a free two month trial.* Phone 1850 73 00 73 or visit http://home.eircom.net/broadbandoffer

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[ Tangential Info & Amusement ] Alert Austrialian VRTours Patent ???
by Adam Moran 18 May '05

18 May '05

Below are some recent snippets from nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.graphics.panotools who have a patent issue of their own: 10/05/05 14:12 Dave 360texas.com wrote: > Due to its preceived importance - comment cross posted to many > forums. > > Received this email from one of my Australian friends today: > ---------- > > Ever heard of an Aussie Virtual Tour company called, "Pro Active > Tours"? > > http://www.proactivetours.com.au/ > > They have Patent No 2003250595 "Interactive Property Tour" > > A system for creating a web based tour for an item of interest > characterised in that it includes the steps of: -establish a tour > identity -associating one or more reference images with the tour > identity -positioning one or more reference icons on one or more of > the said reference images, each said reference icons being > associated with a further reference image -and wherein a position of > each said reference icons is selected to provide information > relating to said further reference image > > A friend of mine doing Virtual Tours in Melbourne has received a > letter from a law firm from this virtual tour company, claiming he > owes them money from March 2004 for all the work he has placed > online. > > ----- > While their links are to single images, this technique could affect > people who link to panoramas too. 10/05/05 14:42 steven morton wrote: > I suggest everyone should look at: > > http://pericles.ipaustralia.gov.au/aub/pdf/nps/2004/1202/2003250595B2/20032… > > > And in particular look at page 2 - World Patent Application > > How the hell did the Australian Patent Office let this one get through??? > > How many years ago did Apple produce that VR tour example of a store > with the original/first QuickTime VR release? DEFINITELY prior art!!! > That MUST pre-date this feeble patent by yonks!!! > > I just don't believe it... !?!?!? 10/05/05 15:25 Rick Drew wrote: > I read an article a few years back - Australia's Patent office is a joke - > the laughingstock of the world patent offices. Someone was able to patent > the wheel. He also submitted applications for light and water. The patent > office was still considering the light and water applications when the > article was written. His next patents were going to be for air and gravity. > > His patent for the wheel is still valid! 10/05/05 19:55 Romuald/hd wrote: > I hardly believed about the wheel but ok, here it is > <http://apa.hpa.com.au:8080/ipapa/iv_pdf?report=ipapa&index=1&doc=1517082> 10/05/05 16:11 panoramicsdk wrote: > The US patent office is not better. > 5 year old boy patents the swing > http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn2178 10/05/05 16:58 Luca Vascon wrote: > This brave new world says that if you can invest enough money you are true. > A nice solution would be a global panographer/content development > organization that protect our rights. > A kind of organization against fraud legitimation and misuse of patents in > content developing... 10/05/05 15:38 Mark D. Fink wrote: > I think I'll move to Australia and patent the patent process. Then I could > sue them for all the patents they have issued in the past! :o) 12/05/05 14:27 Giorgio Marchetto wrote: > I cannot believe it too, but it's true! What a sh.. world! > I suggest a common action (including QTVR associations) against the > Australian Patent Office and this "Pro Active Tours" company. > Not thinking to a difficult and expensive legal action which requires money, > but a media action, a petition or something else to tell our angry answer to > this absurd patent. For example, we can send tons and tons of emails of > protest to them. -- Adam M

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No wait, there's more...
by Malcolm Tyrrell 18 May '05

18 May '05

Oops. I just discovered another page of notes from the meeting. Don't have time to put them on the web page now but it will be done by this evening. Malcohol. _________________________________________________________________ Sign up for eircom broadband now and get a free two month trial.* Phone 1850 73 00 73 or visit http://home.eircom.net/broadbandoffer

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Minutes of yesterday evening's meeting
by Malcolm Tyrrell 18 May '05

18 May '05

I'm in the process of transfering the minutes from the wiki to the main site. Most importantly, I've just put up the minutes from yesterday evening's meeting. Various issues relating to software patents were discussed: http://www.ifso.ie/documents/minutes-2005.html Good luck, Malcohol. _________________________________________________________________ Sign up for eircom broadband now and get a free two month trial.* Phone 1850 73 00 73 or visit http://home.eircom.net/broadbandoffer

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IFSO Wiki updates
by IfsoWiki＠ifso.ie 18 May '05

18 May '05

* BarryOdonovan BarryOdonovanWed, 18 May 2005 07:30:02 -0000 URL: http://www.ifso.ie/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi/BarryOdonovan * BarryOdonovan SwpatMepPositionsWed, 18 May 2005 07:30:02 -0000 URL: http://www.ifso.ie/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi/SwpatMepPositions

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using the wiki
by Ciaran O'Riordan 18 May '05

18 May '05

One think I don't like about the wiki is the default appearance, but I just found that in the user preferences page you can set it to other themes, and the "rightsidebar" theme is quite nice. In particular, it uses text for the buttons, instead of picture buttons that aren't very intuitive. So if you also hate the default look, try that. Remember that anonymous edits are disabled due to wiki spam, so you have to log in. The two main pages that need contributions are: http://www.ifso.ie/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi/SwpatMepPositions http://www.ifso.ie/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi/AboutIfsoBlurb -- Ciarán O'Riordan, http://www.compsoc.com/~coriordan/ http://fsfe.org/Members/ciaran (My email address has changed from @member.fsf.org to @fsfe.org)

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campaignforcreativity
by Malcolm Tyrrell 17 May '05

17 May '05

Hi all. It seems campaignforcreativity are getting geared up for the final push. A friend forwarded me the mail below (from Simon Gentry) which was posted to their list. Good luck, Malcohol. ******************** We are now less than 54 days away from the final vote on the CII Directive in the European Parliament. That means we have about 20 working days to get our message across to MEPs. I would like to know if you would be willing to give up a day or two to come to Brussels or Strasbourg to knock on doors and speak to MEPs about CIIs and patenting. We are planning four or five "fly-ins" between now and 6 July (the day of the vote). The first will be a trip to Strasbourg on 7/8 June. Then there will be three trip to Brussels on 14/15 June, 21/22/23 June and 28/29 June. The final, final push will be in the hours before the vote in Strasbourg on 5/6 July. I am hoping that you will be able to make one or two of these trips. Please let me know if you are interested. Regards and thanks Simon P.S. Also, please don't forget that there are lots of other useful actions that you can take before the vote. Please go to the Action page on the website for some suggestions. Protect innovation, protect patents: Take action now! Go to http://www.campaignforcreativity.org and send an email to your MEPs. _________________________________________________________________ Sign up for eircom broadband now and get a free two month trial.* Phone 1850 73 00 73 or visit http://home.eircom.net/broadbandoffer

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IFSO Wiki updates
by IfsoWiki＠ifso.ie 17 May '05

17 May '05

* MalcolmTyrrell IfsoWebPagesTue, 17 May 2005 07:30:02 -0000 Minutes URL: http://www.ifso.ie/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi/IfsoWebPages * CiaranOriordan SwpatMepPositionsTue, 17 May 2005 07:30:02 -0000 added 1st reading field to table, added first names to MEPs sections URL: http://www.ifso.ie/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi/SwpatMepPositions * CiaranOriordan CiaranOriordanTue, 17 May 2005 07:30:02 -0000 [http://www.compsoc.com/~coriordan/ Ciaran O'Riordan's homepage] URL: http://www.ifso.ie/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi/CiaranOriordan

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