You mean free as free beer and free as freedom:-)
I wouldn't know as I don't know portuguese, but I can talk for Italian which has 2 distinct words. Knowing that portuguese is latin derivative I'd expect that to be distinct as well.
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Daniel Pocock daniel@pocock.pro wrote:
On 11/07/16 15:26, Stefan Umit Uygur wrote:
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Carsten Agger <agger@modspil.dk mailto:agger@modspil.dk> wrote:
Den 11-07-2016 kl. 11:39 skrev Daniel Pocock: How do you feel about using the more verbose "free and open
source
software"? I like that better and often use it myself as a kind of compromise.
I am not really sure if that verbose is appropriate, even though I'd love to use myself. It all depends on the relationship/connection between FSFE and FSF. Because FSF would never like the idea nor approve the usage of the verbose open source, or better, Stallman would never approve knowing him:-)
Personally I think we should break this ice between Free Software and Open Source as to me they are nothing else but father and child to each other.
Sadly, the term "free" is often misused and the wider public is
not
always aware what we are talking about. However, that is a problem which might be better solved by education. A couple of years ago, when I visited Brazil for the first time (I've been there only twice, so don't want to sound too well-travelled) I was very pleasantly surprised that ordinary people, i.e. non-technical social activists, immediately understood what I meant when I said I was working with "free software" without me having to explain. That's because the Lula government and the Ministry of Culture under Gilberto Gil did *a lot* to promote the concept and to promote the idea of community-created and -used software, not least among the social movements. Free software has not, of course, won a convincing victory in Brazil, but it just goes to show that it *is* possible.
I can confirm this as I was part of a massive group who were engaged by Brazilian government at that time (2006) to setup government IT infrastructure (i.e. government institutions, schools, etc.), where Gilberto Gil dispatched his staff all over Europe to get people who can help in doing that.
So it is a great example indeed and the only country that fully engaged on Free Software.
Does Portugese have distinct words for "free of charge" and "free as in liberty", like French and Spanish? If so, that is possibly just as significant as the education factor.
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