[Fellowship Zurich] SwissPass privacy?

Michel ke-mi at bluewin.ch
Di Nov 24 16:06:11 UTC 2015


The cellphones of the train staff use GSM-R. Maybe they have a better network.

Am 22. November 2015 18:56:40 MEZ, schrieb Samuel Gyger <gygersamuel at gmail.com>:
>There was never any discussion over this topic in switzerland, some 
>talk in the news (perhaps 2 articles) but everything went really fast, 
>and suddenly it was there.
>
>There is no anonymization of the Customer data before it is read by the
>
>conductor. The QR code just contains a link to your digital profile at 
>SBB, and they then check your status online. (Perhaps they have a 
>database of all valid GAs on the cellphone, because I got also checked 
>in the tunnel, where I had no reception).
>
>Otherwise there is only the promise that they will store the data 
>anonymised and if you write them, that you don't like your data to be 
>sold to other companies, they won't do it.
>
>Not a lot that you can do here. As everything is now through. The good 
>part is that the Half fare isn't checked very often digitally. (Put 
>this could change when it's one year past since the swisspass was 
>introduced) I myself was very surprised that there was not more outcry 
>over the obvious privacy problems with the SwissPass.
>
>Regards,
>Samuel
>
>Am Son, 22. Nov, 2015 um 6:50 schrieb Daniel Pocock
><daniel at pocock.pro>:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I've been struggling to find accurate information about the SwissPass
>> RFID cards.  Is there just a lack of information in English or has 
>> there
>> been no debate about this issue at all?
>> 
>> Does anybody else know anything about how the "anonymization" of
>> customer data works?  Is it just a gimmick or is it based on some
>open
>> algorithm that can be trusted?
>> 
>> I came across a couple of links that don't really give any details
>but
>> they suggest the SBB can't be trusted:
>> 
>>
>http://lenews.ch/2015/09/04/does-the-swisspass-protect-your-personal-data-questions-are-asked/
>> 
>>
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Switzerland/comments/3hjwg8/can_i_change_my_swisspass_back_to_a_ga/
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>> 
>> 
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