From zejn at kiberpipa.org  Wed Dec  1 13:13:07 2010
From: zejn at kiberpipa.org (Gasper Zejn)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 14:13:07 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Open data delavnica
Message-ID: <201012011413.07605.zejn@kiberpipa.org>

Pozdrav,

To soboto, 4. 12., bo potekala delavnica oz. hack day za proste podatke. 
Vabljeni vsi, ki vas zanimajo ti podatki.

Dogodek bo na RTV Slovenija, začenši okrog 9h.

Prijava na http://sloopendata2010.eventbrite.com/
Podrobnosti na http://www.kiberpipa.org/podatki/wiki/doku.php?id=hackday2010

lp,
Gašper Ž.


From igor.kolar at gmail.com  Wed Dec  1 13:46:13 2010
From: igor.kolar at gmail.com (Igor Kolar)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 14:46:13 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Open data delavnica
In-Reply-To: <201012011413.07605.zejn@kiberpipa.org>
References: <201012011413.07605.zejn@kiberpipa.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikFa1_km_7N4HF5bvOEUyMzrhbruWF85Tfbmvmm@mail.gmail.com>

2010/12/1 Gasper Zejn <zejn at kiberpipa.org>:
> To soboto, 4. 12., bo potekala delavnica oz. hack day za proste podatke.
> Vabljeni vsi, ki vas zanimajo ti podatki.

A lahko malo bolj podrobno opišeš vsebino delavnice?
Thx -i


From hook at fsfe.org  Wed Dec  1 18:25:41 2010
From: hook at fsfe.org (Matija =?utf-8?q?=C5=A0uklje?=)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 19:25:41 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia]
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Analiza zadnjega glasovanja:

http://www.laquadrature.net/en/european-parliament-who-is-for-and-who-is-against-acta

Slovenija ni slaba z 2/3, ampak ne smemo popustiti!


lp,
Matija

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From simon.delakorda at inepa.si  Thu Dec  2 10:05:00 2010
From: simon.delakorda at inepa.si (Simon Delakorda (INePA))
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 11:05:00 +0100
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Na forumu http://www.evropske-razprave.si/ je mogoče slovenskim evropskim 
poslancem in poslankam zastaviti kakšno vprašanje ali posredovati pobudo v 
zvezi z glasovanje o ACTA.

Forum je sedaj nadgrajen. Na forumu objavljena vprašanja so posredovana 
evropskim poslancem v odziv, njihovi odgovori pa javno objavljeni in 
dostopni 
http://www.evropske-razprave.si/porocila-odzivi/odzivi-odlocevalcev.html

Lep pozdrav,

Simon


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Subject: Re: [Fellowship-Slovenia] ACTA — *zadnja* možnost , da jo 
preprečimo

> _______________________________________________
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From hook at fsfe.org  Thu Dec  2 13:40:46 2010
From: hook at fsfe.org (Matija =?utf-8?q?=C5=A0uklje?=)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 14:40:46 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Fwd: FSFE Newsletter December 2010
Message-ID: <201012021440.54302.hook@fsfe.org>


----------  Posredovano sporočilo  ----------

Zadeva: FSFE Newsletter December 2010
Datum: četrtek 2. decembra 2010 11:10:44
Od: Fellowship of FSFE <fellowship at fsfeurope.org>
Za:  Matija Šuklje <hook at fsfe.org>

(Please support us to reach more people in their native language. Join
our translator team http://fsfe.org/contribute/translators/.)

= FSFE Newsletter - December 2010 =

This edition covers the current developments in Open Standards policy,
some basic information about software patents, an update from FSCONS
about distributed computing, and how you can support us in the end of
the year.

This month was the first time in FSFE's history that we had a booth at
three conferences at the same date: the Brandenburger Linux Infotag
(BLIT) [1] in Potsdam/Germany, the Free Society Conference and Nordic
Summit (FSCONS) [2] in Göteburg/Sweden, and T-DOSE [3] Eindhoven/The
Netherlands. Our PDFreaders campaign [4] is quite successful: 31 public
administrations already removed advertisements for non-free PDF readers
from their websites, 8 of them added links to pdfreaders.org. FSFE's
sysadmins updated the Fellowship blog software [5], and we gave several
presentations to politicians, parties, the public administration, and
the Berlin debating union. This month Fellowship interview is with Brian
[6] about free documentation, emacs org mode, and his understanding of
software as a tool. And finally we would like to congratulate Bjarni
Rúnar Einarsson, Free Software developer and community builder from
Iceland, who has received the Nordic Free Software Award [7]

== Open Standards: India - Europe 1:0 ==

This month India's government announced its Open Standards policy [8],
which is a huge success for the Free Software movement. The advantages
for Free Software in India were definitely worth the three-year struggle
with the proprietary software companies. When reading the government's
papers you will recognise several points [9] that were
included in our Open Standards definition [10] especially the ones
already covered in the October edition of the newsletter [11] : that
patents on standards should be available on a royalty-free basis. This
policy will foster innovation in India's IT market, it will lead to
smaller costs for the public administration, and will enable programmers
to be more innovative.

The European Commission is also setting out to reform Europe's
standardisation  system. Standardisation in Europe is currently
dominated by a small number of organisations, mainly big companies. At
the same time, much innovation is done by small and medium-sized
companies. Although numerous, they do not really have a voice in
standardisation.  When having the opportunity to participate they often
struggle because of a lack of time, money or expertise. So while the
Indian document improved between revisions [12], the European
Interoperability Framework (EIF) has only got worse [13]. But with
your ongoing support we can continue to explain the importance of Open
Standards [14] to the European Commission and the member states, so they
can provide us the same advantages as the Indian government. This month
by participating at an joint event from the European Commission and the
European Patent Office [15].

== Software patents: Not another monopoly on software ==

Another topic we highlighted at the meeting from the European Commission
and in a radio interview [16] were software patents.

To begin with, a patent is a monopoly on an idea, whereas copyright is a
monopoly on a concrete implementation. While Bach's II symphony is
covered by copyright, a patent would give a monopoly on the idea to
combine bowed and wind instruments. Software falls under the copyright.
This makes sense, with software you have little research costs, but you
have to spend a lot of time implementing [17] the ideas to make sure
there are no security problems, and you can easily maintain and adapt it
in future. The idea to combine bowed and wind instruments is not a big
challenge, the challenge is how to combine them so it still sounds good
in the end.

More and more people understand that software patents are a problem for
everybody [18], no matter if big or small companies, individual
software developers, users, non-free or Free Software.

- The companies have to spent more money for their legal department, to
  register patents, to negotiate patent crosslicensing, and to defend
  themselves against patent claims. While for some time software patents
  are a nice tool for big companies to prevent newcomers to compete     
  with them, they also have to face companies who only sue others on
  software patents, and never do any software development by
  themselves. Against them, any software company can only loose.
- For software developers software patents mean legal uncertainty:
  whenever you start programming you might violate law. You will never
  be able to find out if you violate a patent. Even if you read a
  software patent you might not realise it covers what you are
  currently implementing. With patents, we have to pay money to
  register them. On the other hand with copyright, everybody of
  us even those who just program as a hobby can write a program, and
  afterwards this falls under copyright without any additional costs.
  In fact, software patents can dispossess us as they can prevent from
  using the rights we get from copyright, e.g. to distribute the
  program to others.
- Users would have to pay for all those costs.  Some people estimate
  that the patent costs for smartphones are about 20% of the actual
  price payed by the customer.

We will continue to get rid of that problem. In the US our sister
organisation is working to build awareness to the harm caused by
software patents [19] and in New Zealand the government understood the
problem and recommended in April to include computer programs amongst
inventions that may not be patented [20]. In Europe the legislation has
decided that software is not patentable. But laws are always interpreted
by people, and in this case interpretations of the law
differ. So the European Patents Office (EPO) grants software patents by
declaring them as "computer implemented inventions". We will continue to
work with our sister organisations [21], our associated organisation
FFII [22], and others to inform people about the dangers of software
patents. We will explain the legislative that they have to make the laws
more precise so that the patent offices have to act as intended.

== Distributed computing at FSCONS ==

We know that distributed computing is not a brand new topic. In fact
there is a 7:21 minutes commercial from 1959 about it [23], and some of
the ideas might still be relevant for the current "cloud computing"
discussion.

Our part here was to host a track a this year's FSCONS called Divide and
Reconquer [24], which focused on the problem of the trend towards
centralised non-free Internet services, and possible solutions. Thanks
to Sam's work [25] and our speakers, all five talks went well, each
generating extensive discussion in the question and answer sessions.

For example this month Fellowship interviewee Brian Gough [26] even said
to me after Michael Christen's demonstration of the peer to peer search
engine Yacy [27], that by the end of next year he only wants to use
distributed search engines for his web searches. Sounds like a good New
Year's resolution. We will continue to work on this topic and animate
more people to think about it, discuss it with others and work on
solutions.

== Get Active: Buy presents and donate - our support programs ==

End of the year often means buying presents and donating money. There
are some ways to combine those two things, for example our support
programs [28]. So if you or some of your friends already use Libri or
Amazon to buy presents, please inform them about the possibility to
support us.

- If you buy books from bookzilla.de [29] we will receive around 5% of
the sales as a donation.
- If you have installed our plugin [30] around 5% of your sale from
amazon is donated to FSFE.

You can read Maëlle's blog post [31] to find out how much was donated
through those ways. If you buy your books and other presents from other
shops, you can of course support FSFE through a one time donation [32]
or on a regular basis by becoming a Fellow of FSFE [33].

Best Regards,
Matthias Kirschner [34] - FSFE [35]


  1.http://www.blit.org
  2.http://www.fscons.org
  3.http://www.t-dose.org
  4.http://www.fsfe.org/campaigns/pdfreaders/pdfreaders.html
  5.http://blogs.fsfe.org/blog/2010/11/26/blogs-upgraded-more-information-on-
the-wiki/
  6.http://blogs.fsfe.org/fellowship-interviews/?p=156
  7.http://fsfe.org/news/2010/news-20101108-01.html
  8.http://egovstandards.gov.in/approved-
standards/egscontent.2010-11-12.9124322046/at_download/file
  9.http://blogs.fsfe.org/gerloff/?p=420
  10.http://www.fsfe.org/projects/os/def.en.html
  11.http://www.fsfe.org/news/nl/nl-201010.en.html
  12.http://fosscomm.in/OpenStandards
  13.http://fsfe.org/projects/os/eifv2.en.html
  14.http://www.fsfe.org/projects/os/os.en.html
  15.http://blogs.fsfe.org/gerloff/?p=426
  16.http://blogs.fsfe.org/mk/?p=690 (in German)
  17.http://www.progfree.org/Patents/industry-at-risk.html
  18.http://en.swpat.org/wiki/All_businesses_are_targets
  19.http://www.fsf.org/blogs/software-patents-after-bilski
  20.http://news.swpat.org/2010/03/new-zealand-govt-against-software-patents/
  21.http://www.fsfe.org/about/fsfnetwork.en.html
  22.http://www.ffii.org
  23.http://www.archive.org/download/AllAboutPolymorphics/AllAboutPolymorphics.ogv
  24.http://www.fscons.org/divide/
  25.http://blogs.fsfe.org/samtuke/?p=71
  26.http://blogs.fsfe.org/fellowship-interviews/?p=156
  27.http://www.yacy.net
  28.http://wiki.fsfe.org/SupportPrograms
  29.http://www.bookzilla.de
  30.http://wiki.fsfe.org/SupportPrograms
  31.http://blogs.fsfe.org/maelle/?p=94
  32.http://www.fsfe.org/donate/donate.en.html
  33.http://fellowship.fsfe.org/index.en.html
  34.http://www.fsfe.org/about/kirschner
  35.http://www.fsfe.org

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From hook at fsfe.org  Mon Dec  6 23:12:16 2010
From: hook at fsfe.org (Matija =?utf-8?q?=C5=A0uklje?=)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 00:12:16 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Sestanek 7.12.2010
In-Reply-To: <201011241125.36069.hook@fsfe.org>
References: <201011241125.36069.hook@fsfe.org>
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Prijazen opomnik, da je danes (torek 7.12) ob 20.00 v Metropolu mesečni sestanek FSFE 
Fellowship skupine Slovenija.

Spodaj je aktualni dnevni red.

Če kdo ne utegne fizično priti, se še vedno lahko pridruži v debati medtem, ko se bo 
v živo pisal zapisnik na:
https://fellowship-slovenia.etherpad.fsfe.org/1

Dnevni red:
* Open Data
   - Open Data Hack Day poročilo
* Prosto programje
   - Projekt: Prosto programje za NVO seznam: https://fellowship-
slovenia.etherpad.fsfe.org/3
   - koga pritegniti v projekt
   - kje promovirati
   - kaj je sploh cilj in ciljna skupina
   - Prosto programje po šolah
   - Ideja: Open Discussion Day [ODD]
   - Ideje za SFD, FSFE 10. let → bom ustvaril na EtherPad
* Odprti standardi
   - Ideje za DFD 2011
* Nevtralnost interneta
   - ACTA končni tekst
   - nevarnost WikiLeaks
* MJU in MVZT
   - se predstavi
   - Objava javnih dokumentov v zaprtih formatih - standarni dopis za organe JU, da 
ne moreš prebrati njihovih vsebin ker so v zaprtih formatih
* Organizacija
   - EtherPad.FSFE.org dostop
   - sestanki ob drugih dneh?
* Razno


lp,
Matija

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From andrej.kositer at agenda.si  Tue Dec  7 08:36:57 2010
From: andrej.kositer at agenda.si (Andrej Kositer)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 09:36:57 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Sestanek 7.12.2010
In-Reply-To: <201012070012.25838.hook@fsfe.org>
Message-ID: <1625055594.249.1291711017936.JavaMail.root@zimbra.agenda.si>





Prijazen opomnik, da je danes (torek 7.12) ob 20.00 v Metropolu mesečni sestanek FSFE 
Fellowship skupine Slovenija. 

Spodaj je aktualni dnevni red. 
- Objava javnih dokumentov v zaprtih formatih - standarni dopis za organe JU, da ne moreš prebrati njihovih vsebin ker so v zaprtih formatih 
Žal se danes sestanka ne morem udeležiti, prilagam pa osnutek standardnega dopisa, ki ga lahko predebatirate in če je OK nekje objavite da ga lahko vsak v primeru potrebe (velike) sname in pošlje ... :) 



Spoštovani! 

Dne dd.mm.llll sem na spletni strani na naslovu http://... , naletel na podatke/datoteko ime_fajla, ki je ne morem prebrati s prosto in brezplačno, na odprtih standardih temelječo programsko opremo. Kljub temu, da za objavo tovrstnih vsebin obstajajo zapisi v odprtih standardih, ki so dostopni vsakomur (ODF), moram za dostop do vsebin kupiti in uporabiti plačljivo, oz. komercialno programsko opremo, ki podpira zaprte, licenčne standarde (MS office). 

Omenjene strani so del državne/javne uprave RS, ki je zavezana k transparentnosti in nediskriminatornosti pri spletnem komuniciranju z državljani in davkoplačevalci in objavi javnih vsebin in podatkov. Ker ste navedeni kot urednik/vzdrževalec/odgovorna oseba, pričakujem, da boste napako odpravili in javne podatke objavili na način in v formatih, ki bodo omogočali prosto dostopnost, brez siljenja v nakup licenc ali orodij temelječih na zaprtih standardih. 

Vašo spletno stran smo vpisali tudi v evidenčno javno kartoteko na strani http:// od koder bo odstranjena po odpravi napake, o kateri nas prosim obvestite. 

Za odgovor se vam že vnaprej lepo zahvaljujem. 

Podpis 





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From hook at fsfe.org  Tue Dec  7 13:18:59 2010
From: hook at fsfe.org (Matija =?utf-8?q?=C5=A0uklje?=)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 14:18:59 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Sestanek 7.12.2010
In-Reply-To: <1625055594.249.1291711017936.JavaMail.root@zimbra.agenda.si>
References: <1625055594.249.1291711017936.JavaMail.root@zimbra.agenda.si>
Message-ID: <201012071419.12791.hook@fsfe.org>

Dne torek 7. decembra 2010 ob 09:36:57 je Andrej Kositer napisal(a):
> Žal se danes sestanka ne morem udeležiti, prilagam pa osnutek standardnega
> dopisa, ki ga lahko predebatirate in če je OK nekje objavite da ga lahko
> vsak v primeru potrebe (velike) sname in pošlje ... :) 

Škoda :\

Hvala za draft. Po mojem je najbolje, če ga najprej uredimo skupaj na 
EtherPad, potem pa damo na FSFE Wiki skupaj z eng. prevodom, da ga lahko še 
ostale skupine porabijo.


lp,
Matija

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From simon.delakorda at inepa.si  Tue Dec  7 13:28:25 2010
From: simon.delakorda at inepa.si (Simon Delakorda (INePA))
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 14:28:25 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Sestanek 7.12.2010
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Potrjujem udeležbo.

Lep pozdrav,

Simon

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From: "MatijaŠuklje" <hook at fsfe.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:12 AM
To: "FSFE Fellowship Group Slovenia" <fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org>
Subject: Re: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Sestanek 7.12.2010

> _______________________________________________
> Dopisni seznam Fellowship-slovenia
> Fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org
> https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fellowship-slovenia
> Arhiv je javno dostopen na: 
> https://lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fellowship-slovenia/
>
> 


From jaka.kranjc at ocistimo.si  Tue Dec  7 13:30:41 2010
From: jaka.kranjc at ocistimo.si (Jaka Kranjc)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 14:30:41 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Sestanek 7.12.2010
In-Reply-To: <2107E9CC188A4F949C14EA76E714C566@inepa>
References: <201011241125.36069.hook@fsfe.org>
	<201012070012.25838.hook@fsfe.org>
	<2107E9CC188A4F949C14EA76E714C566@inepa>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimtx=0ubUaz9rUG6AiY9a1cTDRxBRDiDQ14XpEY@mail.gmail.com>

Jaz tudi.

LP

2010/12/7 Simon Delakorda (INePA) <simon.delakorda at inepa.si>

> Potrjujem udeležbo.
>
> Lep pozdrav,
>
> Simon
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "MatijaŠuklje" <hook at fsfe.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:12 AM
> To: "FSFE Fellowship Group Slovenia" <fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org>
>
> Subject: Re: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Sestanek 7.12.2010
>
>  _______________________________________________
>> Dopisni seznam Fellowship-slovenia
>> Fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org
>> https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fellowship-slovenia
>> Arhiv je javno dostopen na:
>> https://lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fellowship-slovenia/
>>
>>
>>  _______________________________________________
> Dopisni seznam Fellowship-slovenia
> Fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org
> https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fellowship-slovenia
> Arhiv je javno dostopen na:
> https://lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fellowship-slovenia/
>
>


-- 
Jaka Kranjc, društvo Ekologi brez meja, sekcija za kohezijo
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From pss.milan at gmail.com  Tue Dec  7 19:11:08 2010
From: pss.milan at gmail.com (milan Pss)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 20:11:08 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Sestanek 7.12.2010
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimtx=0ubUaz9rUG6AiY9a1cTDRxBRDiDQ14XpEY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201011241125.36069.hook@fsfe.org>
	<201012070012.25838.hook@fsfe.org>
	<2107E9CC188A4F949C14EA76E714C566@inepa>
	<AANLkTimtx=0ubUaz9rUG6AiY9a1cTDRxBRDiDQ14XpEY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=opoPUKgwEyeQMbyStd19_wL+7RS3oyqxvh8J9@mail.gmail.com>

ravnokar sem prišel domov,.. ne bo mi znesl :(
spremljam na etherpadu

2010/12/7 Jaka Kranjc <jaka.kranjc at ocistimo.si>

> Jaz tudi.
>
> LP
>
> 2010/12/7 Simon Delakorda (INePA) <simon.delakorda at inepa.si>
>
> Potrjujem udeležbo.
>>
>> Lep pozdrav,
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "MatijaŠuklje" <hook at fsfe.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:12 AM
>> To: "FSFE Fellowship Group Slovenia" <fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Sestanek 7.12.2010
>>
>>  _______________________________________________
>>> Dopisni seznam Fellowship-slovenia
>>> Fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org
>>> https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fellowship-slovenia
>>> Arhiv je javno dostopen na:
>>> https://lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fellowship-slovenia/
>>>
>>>
>>>  _______________________________________________
>> Dopisni seznam Fellowship-slovenia
>> Fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org
>> https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fellowship-slovenia
>> Arhiv je javno dostopen na:
>> https://lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fellowship-slovenia/
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Jaka Kranjc, društvo Ekologi brez meja, sekcija za kohezijo
> www.ekologibrezmeja.si <http://www.ebm.si>
> Have a sourcerous day! www.sourcemage.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dopisni seznam Fellowship-slovenia
> Fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org
> https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fellowship-slovenia
> Arhiv je javno dostopen na:
> https://lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fellowship-slovenia/
>
>
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From zejn at kiberpipa.org  Tue Dec  7 21:29:59 2010
From: zejn at kiberpipa.org (Gasper Zejn)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 22:29:59 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] =?utf-8?q?Open_data_delavnica_//_poro=C4=8D?=
	=?utf-8?q?ilo?=
Message-ID: <201012072229.59802.zejn@kiberpipa.org>

Open data delavnica preteklo soboto je bila prav fina zmaga, hvala vsem ki ste 
prišli.

Popisali smo kup virov podatkov, ki so sedaj lepo popisani na 
http://si.ckan.net/ Spisek še ni popoln pa tudi oznake še niso čisto 
usklajene, ampak je pa začetek.

Lotili smo se tudi par vizualizacij, ena (edina dokončana) je odvoz vozil s 
pajkom[1], ostale so še bolj v fazi izdelave. Kar je še bolje, Dnevnik je na 
spletu objavil kratko novičko o tem[2], tako da smo imeli tudi nekaj pokritja.

Sicer na sam dogodek, četudi je bil na RTV, ni blo drugih novinarjev razen z 
Vala 202, kjer pa dela tudi Matej Praprotnik, ki je močno pomagal pri 
organizaciji. No, zahvala pa gre tudi RTV, ki nam je častila prostor in 
prigrizek.

Delali smo sicer (poleg popisa) še na podatkih o kriminalu in prometnih 
nesrečah, ampak ti podatki še niso dokončno predelani.


No, kakor koli, hekanje je kar dobro uspelo, upam da bomo naslednjič uspeli 
naredit še kaj več in prepričat še koga drugega (morda tudi kakega novinarja?) 
da se nam pridruži v risanju zanimivih grafov.
Lp,
Gašper



[1]  
http://www.openheatmap.com/embed.html?map=WoolliestCircuitryDiffered&prefer=canvas
[2] http://dnevnik.si/novice/slovenija/1042408185


From brodul at gmx.com  Tue Dec  7 21:41:45 2010
From: brodul at gmx.com (Andraz Brodnik)
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 22:41:45 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Sestanek 7.12.2010
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=opoPUKgwEyeQMbyStd19_wL+7RS3oyqxvh8J9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201011241125.36069.hook@fsfe.org>
	<201012070012.25838.hook@fsfe.org>
	<2107E9CC188A4F949C14EA76E714C566@inepa>
	<AANLkTimtx=0ubUaz9rUG6AiY9a1cTDRxBRDiDQ14XpEY@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=opoPUKgwEyeQMbyStd19_wL+7RS3oyqxvh8J9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1291758105.4839.3.camel@chip.brodul.lan>

Se opravičujem, ker me ni bilo. (sploh me še ni bilo :( )

bro

On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 20:11 +0100, milan Pss wrote:
> ravnokar sem prišel domov,.. ne bo mi znesl :(
> spremljam na etherpadu
> 
> 2010/12/7 Jaka Kranjc <jaka.kranjc at ocistimo.si>
>         Jaz tudi.
>         
>         
>         
>         LP
>         
>         2010/12/7 Simon Delakorda (INePA) <simon.delakorda at inepa.si>
>         
>         
>                 Potrjujem udeležbo.
>                 
>                 Lep pozdrav,
>                 
>                 Simon
>                 
>                 --------------------------------------------------
>                 From: "MatijaŠuklje" <hook at fsfe.org>
>                 Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:12 AM
>                 To: "FSFE Fellowship Group Slovenia"
>                 <fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org>
>                 
>                 Subject: Re: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Sestanek 7.12.2010
>                 
>                 
>                         _______________________________________________
>                         Dopisni seznam Fellowship-slovenia
>                         Fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org
>                         https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fellowship-slovenia
>                         Arhiv je javno dostopen na:
>                         https://lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fellowship-slovenia/
>                         
>                         
>                 _______________________________________________
>                 Dopisni seznam Fellowship-slovenia
>                 Fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org
>                 https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fellowship-slovenia
>                 Arhiv je javno dostopen na:
>                 https://lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fellowship-slovenia/
>                 
>                 
>         
>         
>         
>         -- 
>         Jaka Kranjc, društvo Ekologi brez meja, sekcija za kohezijo
>         www.ekologibrezmeja.si
>         Have a sourcerous day! www.sourcemage.org
>         
>         _______________________________________________
>         Dopisni seznam Fellowship-slovenia
>         Fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org
>         https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fellowship-slovenia
>         Arhiv je javno dostopen na:
>         https://lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fellowship-slovenia/
>         
>         
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Dopisni seznam Fellowship-slovenia
> Fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org
> https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fellowship-slovenia
> Arhiv je javno dostopen na: https://lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fellowship-slovenia/
> 

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From simon.delakorda at inepa.si  Wed Dec  8 10:04:29 2010
From: simon.delakorda at inepa.si (Simon Delakorda (INePA))
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 11:04:29 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia]
	=?utf-8?q?Open_data_delavnica_//_poro=C4=8D?= =?utf-8?q?ilo?=
In-Reply-To: <201012072229.59802.zejn@kiberpipa.org>
References: <201012072229.59802.zejn@kiberpipa.org>
Message-ID: <363D980428B24FC99CF641C36428862A@inepa>

Informacija o "hack day" in vizualizaciji odvoza vozil s pajkom je bila 
objavljena tudi na
http://www.pozitivke.net/article.php/Podatkovne-Zbirke-Avto-Pajek-Odvoz

Čestitke za uspešno izvedbo delavnice!

Simon

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Gasper Zejn" <zejn at kiberpipa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:29 PM
To: "FSFE Fellowship Group Slovenia" <fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org>
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Open data delavnica // poročilo

> Open data delavnica preteklo soboto je bila prav fina zmaga, hvala vsem ki 
> ste
> prišli.
>
> Popisali smo kup virov podatkov, ki so sedaj lepo popisani na
> http://si.ckan.net/ Spisek še ni popoln pa tudi oznake še niso čisto
> usklajene, ampak je pa začetek.
>
> Lotili smo se tudi par vizualizacij, ena (edina dokončana) je odvoz vozil 
> s
> pajkom[1], ostale so še bolj v fazi izdelave. Kar je še bolje, Dnevnik je 
> na
> spletu objavil kratko novičko o tem[2], tako da smo imeli tudi nekaj 
> pokritja.
>
> Sicer na sam dogodek, četudi je bil na RTV, ni blo drugih novinarjev razen 
> z
> Vala 202, kjer pa dela tudi Matej Praprotnik, ki je močno pomagal pri
> organizaciji. No, zahvala pa gre tudi RTV, ki nam je častila prostor in
> prigrizek.
>
> Delali smo sicer (poleg popisa) še na podatkih o kriminalu in prometnih
> nesrečah, ampak ti podatki še niso dokončno predelani.
>
>
> No, kakor koli, hekanje je kar dobro uspelo, upam da bomo naslednjič 
> uspeli
> naredit še kaj več in prepričat še koga drugega (morda tudi kakega 
> novinarja?)
> da se nam pridruži v risanju zanimivih grafov.
> Lp,
> Gašper
>
>
>
> [1]
> http://www.openheatmap.com/embed.html?map=WoolliestCircuitryDiffered&prefer=canvas
> [2] http://dnevnik.si/novice/slovenija/1042408185
> _______________________________________________
> Dopisni seznam Fellowship-slovenia
> Fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org
> https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fellowship-slovenia
> Arhiv je javno dostopen na: 
> https://lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fellowship-slovenia/
>
> 


From zejn at kiberpipa.org  Wed Dec  8 11:06:01 2010
From: zejn at kiberpipa.org (Gasper Zejn)
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 12:06:01 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia]
 =?utf-8?q?Open_data_delavnica_//_poro=C4=8D?= =?utf-8?q?ilo?=
In-Reply-To: <363D980428B24FC99CF641C36428862A@inepa>
References: <201012072229.59802.zejn@kiberpipa.org>
	<363D980428B24FC99CF641C36428862A@inepa>
Message-ID: <201012081206.02039.zejn@kiberpipa.org>

Super, hvala, sem dodal še na wiki. :)

lp,
Gašper

On Wednesday 08 December 2010 11:04:29 Simon Delakorda (INePA) wrote:
> Informacija o "hack day" in vizualizaciji odvoza vozil s pajkom je bila
> objavljena tudi na
> http://www.pozitivke.net/article.php/Podatkovne-Zbirke-Avto-Pajek-Odvoz
> 
> Čestitke za uspešno izvedbo delavnice!
> 
> Simon
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Gasper Zejn" <zejn at kiberpipa.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:29 PM
> To: "FSFE Fellowship Group Slovenia" <fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org>
> Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Open data delavnica // poročilo
> 
> > Open data delavnica preteklo soboto je bila prav fina zmaga, hvala vsem
> > ki ste
> > prišli.
> > 
> > Popisali smo kup virov podatkov, ki so sedaj lepo popisani na
> > http://si.ckan.net/ Spisek še ni popoln pa tudi oznake še niso čisto
> > usklajene, ampak je pa začetek.
> > 
> > Lotili smo se tudi par vizualizacij, ena (edina dokončana) je odvoz vozil
> > s
> > pajkom[1], ostale so še bolj v fazi izdelave. Kar je še bolje, Dnevnik je
> > na
> > spletu objavil kratko novičko o tem[2], tako da smo imeli tudi nekaj
> > pokritja.
> > 
> > Sicer na sam dogodek, četudi je bil na RTV, ni blo drugih novinarjev
> > razen z
> > Vala 202, kjer pa dela tudi Matej Praprotnik, ki je močno pomagal pri
> > organizaciji. No, zahvala pa gre tudi RTV, ki nam je častila prostor in
> > prigrizek.
> > 
> > Delali smo sicer (poleg popisa) še na podatkih o kriminalu in prometnih
> > nesrečah, ampak ti podatki še niso dokončno predelani.
> > 
> > 
> > No, kakor koli, hekanje je kar dobro uspelo, upam da bomo naslednjič
> > uspeli
> > naredit še kaj več in prepričat še koga drugega (morda tudi kakega
> > novinarja?)
> > da se nam pridruži v risanju zanimivih grafov.
> > Lp,
> > Gašper
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [1]
> > http://www.openheatmap.com/embed.html?map=WoolliestCircuitryDiffered&pref
> > er=canvas [2] http://dnevnik.si/novice/slovenija/1042408185
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dopisni seznam Fellowship-slovenia
> > Fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org
> > https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fellowship-slovenia
> > Arhiv je javno dostopen na:
> > https://lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fellowship-slovenia/
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Dopisni seznam Fellowship-slovenia
> Fellowship-slovenia at lists.fsfe.org
> https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/fellowship-slovenia
> Arhiv je javno dostopen na:
> https://lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/fellowship-slovenia/


From simon.delakorda at inepa.si  Wed Dec  8 14:57:00 2010
From: simon.delakorda at inepa.si (Simon Delakorda (INePA))
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 15:57:00 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] =?iso-8859-2?q?Open_data_-_The_Need_for_Ref?=
	=?iso-8859-2?q?inement?=
Message-ID: <DB747B7046BF494E98E9C9CAD7372E67@inepa>

Morda zanimiv članek o Open data.

http://www.headstar.com/egblive/?p=697

Lep pozdrav,

Simon Delakorda
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From hook at fsfe.org  Wed Dec  8 19:51:34 2010
From: hook at fsfe.org (Matija =?utf-8?q?=C5=A0uklje?=)
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 20:51:34 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Standardni dopis glede zaprtih formatov
Message-ID: <201012082051.38425.hook@fsfe.org>

Kot se je izkazalo, bi bilo praktično, da bi imeli nek standardiziran dopis, 
ki bi ga enostavno copy-paste-ali v 

Tekst, ki ga je Andrej Kositer predlagal, sem dal na naš EtherPad:
https://fellowship-slovenia.etherpad.fsfe.org/4

Prosim, da ga kogar ta tema zanima še dopolni tam.


lp,
Matija

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From andrej.kositer at agenda.si  Thu Dec  9 09:53:04 2010
From: andrej.kositer at agenda.si (Andrej Kositer)
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 10:53:04 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Standardni dopis glede zaprtih formatov
In-Reply-To: <201012082051.38425.hook@fsfe.org>
Message-ID: <1812865940.621.1291888384956.JavaMail.root@zimbra.agenda.si>






Kot se je izkazalo, bi bilo praktično, da bi imeli nek standardiziran dopis, 
ki bi ga enostavno copy-paste-ali v 

Tekst, ki ga je Andrej Kositer predlagal, sem dal na naš EtherPad: 
https://fellowship-slovenia.etherpad.fsfe.org/4 

Prosim, da ga kogar ta tema zanima še dopolni tam. 
Ste se kaj pogovarjali o tem, da bi _nekje_ res objavili spisek teh strani? 

Lahko ga pripravimo tudi na straneh COKS (mediawiki), samo prosim če ga lahko nekdo vzdržuje ? 

lp 




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From hook at fsfe.org  Thu Dec  9 13:59:24 2010
From: hook at fsfe.org (Matija =?utf-8?q?=C5=A0uklje?=)
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 14:59:24 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Standardni dopis glede zaprtih formatov
In-Reply-To: <1812865940.621.1291888384956.JavaMail.root@zimbra.agenda.si>
References: <1812865940.621.1291888384956.JavaMail.root@zimbra.agenda.si>
Message-ID: <201012091459.58015.hook@fsfe.org>

Dne četrtek 9. decembra 2010 ob 10:53:04 je Andrej Kositer napisal(a):
> Ste se kaj pogovarjali o tem, da bi nekje res objavili spisek teh strani? 

Večina sestanka je bila namenjena projektu Prosto programje za NVO. Zato smo 
se odločili, da bi zaenkrat to temo obdelali na mailing listi in EtherPad.

Glede seznama pa lahko vprašam, če dobimo dostop do „bug sistema“ FSFE-jevega 
projekta PDF Readers ali pa damo kar na FSFE-jev wiki.


lp,
Matija

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From hook at fsfe.org  Wed Dec 15 08:26:01 2010
From: hook at fsfe.org (Matija =?utf-8?q?=C5=A0uklje?=)
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:26:01 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] =?utf-8?q?OESPA_=E2=80=94_Open_Source_softw?=
 =?utf-8?q?are_usage_by_European_Public_Administration?=
Message-ID: <201012150926.05051.hook@fsfe.org>

Hoj,

na OSOR news[1] sem naletel na zanimiv projekt — OSEPA — ki meri uporabo 
prostega programja v javni upravi, osvešča, poučuje ipd.


lp,
Matija

-.-.-
[1]	http://osor.eu
[2]	http://www.osepa.eu/
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From hook at fsfe.org  Fri Dec 17 21:53:17 2010
From: hook at fsfe.org (Matija =?utf-8?q?=C5=A0uklje?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 22:53:17 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] EIFv2 in kako ga FSFE komentira
Message-ID: <201012172253.20747.hook@fsfe.org>

Hejhoj,

Evropska komisija je pred kratkim sprejela EIFv2[1].

Gre za temeljni dokument v EU, ki opredeljuje potrebo po interoperabilnosti in 
posledično tudi uporabo odprtih standardov in prostega programja v javni 
upravi v EU in njenih članicah.

Uradno mnenje[2] FSFE o EIFv2 je, da je za bil skrajni čas za revizijo in da 
tekst pozdravlja, vendar z zadržki.

Pomembne opazke:
* EIFv1 je bil zgolj priporočilo, EIFv2 pa je pravno veljaven tekst;
* pri EIFv2 je zato močno lobirala tudi BSA in je zato zmaga že to, da se je v 
končni tekst zopet uvedlo odprte standarde v tekst (čeprav EIFv2 dopušča 
FRAND);
* EIFv2 je potrebno vzeti skupaj z drugimi dokumenti, kot npr. eGovernment 
Action Plan — kar pomeni, da morajo države članice delovati po EIFv2.

Več o tem je napisal v svojem blogu[3] tudi Karsten Gerloff.

Skratka: čeprav nekatere pomembne podrobnosti zdaleč niso idealne, je tekst 
kot celota in dejstvo, da je zavezujoč, velik korak naprej k preferiranju 
odprtih standardov in prostega programja v javni upravi.


lp,
Matija

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[1]	European Interoperability Framework, version 2 — 
http://ec.europa.eu/isa/strategy/doc/110113__iop_communication_annex_eif.pdf
[2]	http://www.fsfeurope.org/news/2010/news-20101216-01.en.html
[3]	http://blogs.fsfe.org/gerloff/2010/12/17/assessing-the-new-european-
interoperability-framework/
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From hook at fsfe.org  Fri Dec 17 22:00:55 2010
From: hook at fsfe.org (Matija =?utf-8?q?=C5=A0uklje?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 23:00:55 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] =?utf-8?q?EU_zapravila_189_M_=E2=82=AC_na_r?=
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Message-ID: <201012172300.58925.hook@fsfe.org>

Na žalost pa ni vse tako rožnato…

Evropska komisija je namreč v začetku meseca podpisala do sedaj največjo — 189 
milijonov evrov vredno — pogodbo za nakup oz. najem licenčne programske 
opreme.

FSFE se je ostro odzval[1] in kritiziral, češ kako da medtem ko na eni strani 
sprejema 

Priporočam tudi OSOR novico[2] na to temo, ker navaja tudi odzive medijev.


lp,
Matija

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[1]	http://fsfe.org/news/2010/news-20101207-01.en.html
[2]	http://www.osor.eu/news/ec-heckled-over-its-framework-software-
procurement
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From hook at fsfe.org  Fri Dec 17 22:07:30 2010
From: hook at fsfe.org (Matija =?utf-8?q?=C5=A0uklje?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 23:07:30 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Nov termin za sestanke v letu 2011
Message-ID: <201012172307.34141.hook@fsfe.org>

Ker se je že več ljudi izrazilo, da ob torkih zvečer nima časa, sem naredil 
novo anketo.

Kdaj bi imeli čas za mesečne sestanke:

http://doodle.com/3cnsaaus8pk4sfgw

Ko se odločimo glede dneva v tednu in ure, pa se bomo še zmenili glede tedna v 
mesecu.


lp,
Matija
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From matic.ahacic at gmail.com  Thu Dec 23 17:21:50 2010
From: matic.ahacic at gmail.com (Matic Ahacic)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:21:50 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia]
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Pozdravljeni,

kljub uspešnosti akcije z odprtim pismom v poletno jesenskem času se sedaj
(ob "aferi" wikileaks) zopet pojavljajo napačne uporabe besede heker

http://www.mladina.si/dnevnik/19-12-2010-pc_je_orozje__vzemi_ga_v_roke_/

Zgornji primer je samo eden od mnogih. In mogoče bi bilo dobro šeenkrat
poslati pismo.


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From r at aufbix.org  Thu Dec 23 19:33:05 2010
From: r at aufbix.org (Robert Ludvik)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 20:33:05 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia]
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S, Matic Ahacic piše:
> Pozdravljeni,
>
> kljub uspešnosti akcije z odprtim pismom v poletno jesenskem času se 
> sedaj (ob "aferi" wikileaks) zopet pojavljajo napačne uporabe besede heker
>
> http://www.mladina.si/dnevnik/19-12-2010-pc_je_orozje__vzemi_ga_v_roke_/
>
> Zgornji primer je samo eden od mnogih. In mogoče bi bilo dobro 
> šeenkrat poslati pismo.
>
>
> -- 
> lp Matic

Saj Eskimi, ki imajo več kot 100 besed za sneg, se verjetno tudi 
zgražajo nad uporabo te besede v medijih :)



From hook at fsfe.org  Fri Dec 24 20:16:14 2010
From: hook at fsfe.org (Matija =?utf-8?q?=C5=A0uklje?=)
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 21:16:14 +0100
Subject: [Fellowship-Slovenia] Report on the International Status of Open
	Source Software 2010
Message-ID: <201012242116.19997.hook@fsfe.org>

Hoj,

verjetno bo komu koristno — CENATIC je izdal poročilo o mednarodnem statusu prostega 
programja v letu 2010:

http://observatorio.cenatic.es/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=666:report-
on-the-international-status-of-open-source-software-2010&catid=13:empresas&Itemid=23

Na 150 zaslonskih straneh je razdelana analiza po kontinentih in državah. Slovenija 
kotira točno na sredini grafa razvitosti IKT ter prostega programja v regiji EU, kar 
nas globalno kategorizira v skupino „less advanced countries“.


lp,
Matija

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