[Fsfe-ie] directive passed, summary

Ian Clarke ian at dodo.freenetproject.org
Thu Sep 25 17:57:08 CEST 2003


Anyone know how to lobby Bertie effectively?  Perhaps one of the helpful 
MEPs can introduce us to the right people?

Ian.

On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 09:03:34AM +0100, sean at odonnell.nu wrote:
> So maybe the best tactic right now is to lobby bertie,
> If we can get him onside, no doubt whoever is sent will be 
> sent along with the right idea...
> 
> Quoting Ciaran O'Riordan <ciaran at member.fsf.org>:
> 
> > 
> > Attached is a copy of the Articles of the amended directive.
> > Read Article 2 (a, b, c, & d) for a smile.
> > 
> > So now the proposal goes to the Council of Ministers.  They
> > can do three things:
> > 
> > a) They can accept the pre-amendment directive
> > 
> > If this happens, the procedure ends.  No more voting, the
> > (bad) directive gets adopted.
> > 
> > This would kill us.  We have to make sure the Council don't
> > do this.  The Council is made up of one Minister from each
> > country.  The Minister is not a set position, the country
> > chooses a relevent one for each meeting, so we don't know
> > who are minister will be.  Brian Crowley is the only Irish
> > member of JURI.  I reckon he has a good chance.  He's very
> > anti-swpat so it would be great if it's him.
> > 
> > 
> > b) They can accept the directive with all amendments
> > 
> > If this happens, the procedure ends.  No more voting, the
> > (good) directive gets adopted.
> > 
> > This is highly unlikely since after 78 amendments were adopted,
> > the directive contradicts itself in places.
> > 
> > c) accept the directive with some amendments
> > 
> > If this happends, the semi-amended directive will return to the
> > plenary for a "Second Reading".  This is likely to happen but
> > we must make sure it does happen.  In the Second Reading, the
> > plenary cannot suggest new amendments, it can only defend the
> > ones it had already.
> > 
> > 
> > Q: Why does the Council of Ministers have so much power?
> > A: To prevent large states out voting small states.
> > 
> > 
> > Ciaran O'Riordan
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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