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Sa Apr 16 10:22:13 UTC 2016

Hoi Michael,

Diese Mail von Jonas habe ich nicht bekommen.

Viele Grüsse
Marcus

> Am 16.04.2016 um 12:18 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann <anwalt at rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>:
> 
> Hallo,
> 
> Am 16.04.2016 um 10:29 schrieb Werner Koch:
> 
>> 
>> Als aktiver Leser gelte ich nicht als Nutzer?  Jedenfalls habe ich der
>> Sache nichts gehört - wo ist das denn wieder diskutiert worden?  Sonst
>> wird doch über jeden Schnickschack (z.B. Technik wie die Newsletter
>> versendet werden) in aller Breite diskutiert.
>> 
> 
> Im festen Glauben an Kooperation und Transparenz und damit möglichst
> jeder interessierte Deutschsprachige informiert ist, leite ich Jonas
> erste E-Mail in dieser Angelegenheit an mich und andere weiter:
> 
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> Betreff: Thoughts about our blog platform
> Datum: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 21:08:10 +0200
> Von: Jonas Oberg <jonas at fsfe.org>
> An: guido at fsfe.org, pboddie at fsfe.org, franz.gratzer at fsfe.org,
> floriansnow at fsfe.org, stehmann at fsfe.org, stargrave at fsfe.org
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> you're getting this mail because you've been using the FSFE's blog
> platform in the latest month or two, and thus being one of the more
> regular contributors.
> 
> We're currently facing a situation where our blog platform has not
> been updated in quite some time, and getting up to date with latest
> Wordpress versions would be a herculean effort. In addition, we are
> now forced to restart the blog server sometimes six times per day due to
> bugs making it crash.
> 
> This is obviously not sustainable, and we've been considering in the
> system administration team whether to keep the blog system up and
> finding a way to do the massive upgrades needed, or to stop offering
> blogs as a service to fellows.
> 
> We're currently leaning towards the second option: when we started
> offering blogs, it was a nice service, and made it easy to get a blog
> setup. These days, it's easy to setup your own blog or to have a
> blog hosted elsewhere, and the use of our blog platform has also
> decreased rapidly in the last years.
> 
> I'm attaching a draft of a mail below, which we've been considering to
> send out to announce such a shutdown, and as the most frequent users
> of our blog platform, I would like to hear your thoughts on the
> matter, before taking any action.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> -- 
> Jonas Öberg, Executive Director
> Free Software Foundation Europe | jonas at fsfe.org
> Your donation enables our work (fsfe.org/donate)
> 
> Beigefügt war folgende E-Mail:
> 
> Removing our blogs service.eml
> Betreff:
> Removing our blogs service
> Von:
> Jonas Oberg <jonas at fsfe.org>
> Datum:
> 31.03.2016 20:16
> An:
> fellows at silk
> 
> Dear Fellow,
> 
> when the FSFE began offering our blog platform, it was a genuinely
> useful thing to do. The number of providers who offered blogging
> software was more limited. Since then, the situation has changed,
> and it's much easier for anyone to get a blog today. It takes little
> effort and most of the alternatives would be more modern than what the
> FSFE offer today.
> 
> We've decided that it's time for our blog platform to retire and by
> the 1st of July 2016, we'll remove the blog platform completely.
> Partly for the reason outlined above, and partly because we've
> encountered technical problems with our current setup which would take
> significant resources to adress. We've already stopped registration of
> new blogs. For anyone currently using our blog platform, you have a
> few options of how to proceed at this point.
> 
> Option #1: You can migrate your blog elsewhere, using first the
>           Tools/Export option in our Wordpress to export a database
>           dump. You should then contact system-hackers at fsfeurope.org
>           to get a copy of your uploaded files folder. Lastly, when
>           you have a new blog setup, our system-hackers can also
>           setup a redirect from the old address to the new address.
> 
> Option #2: If you'd like us to archive your blog as a set of static
>           web pages, we can also do this for you. We'll be using
>           a simple "wget" crawler to make the copy. This will not be
>           perfect, but it will be something. Again, you should
>           contact system-hackers at fsfeurope.org for this.
> 
> Option #3: Do nothing. In this case, the blog will be decomissioned.
> 
> As we take this decision, we've also begun thinking about what we
> really liked about the blog platform. We liked that there was, for
> many blogs, a common theme identifying them as blogs from our
> community. We liked they were easily syndicated on our planet[1]. We
> liked how easy it was for a new volunteer in a local group to start
> writing about what happened in the group.
> 
> Moving forward, we'll think about how we can take the parts we
> liked, and see if we can not realise the same with a more modern
> platform. We will not install anything new for the foreseeable future
> though.
> 
> Please contact system-hackers at fsfeurope.org if you have any questions
> or would like assistance.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> -- 
> Jonas Öberg, Executive Director
> Free Software Foundation Europe | jonas at fsfe.org
> Your donation enables our work (fsfe.org/donate)
> 
> Jonas Antwort auf unsere Eingaben klang für mich hoffnungsvoll:
> 
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> Betreff: Re: Thoughts about our blog platform
> Datum: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 05:21:30 +0200
> Von: Jonas Oberg <jonas at fsfe.org>
> An: Dr. Michael Stehmann <anwalt at rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>
> Kopie (CC): guido at fsfe.org, pboddie at fsfe.org, franz.gratzer at fsfe.org,
> floriansnow at fsfe.org, stehmann at fsfe.org, stargrave at fsfe.org
> 
> Hi Michael, Florian,
> 
>> I use my blog very often to write reports of our meetings and other
>> activities, So it is an important tool for me and the memory of our group.
> 
> Thank you both! It seems both of you find consensus on that the blog
> platform is for group communication, rather than personal
> communication. Allow me to draw your attention to this passage in the
> mail I forwarded:
> 
>> As we take this decision, we've also begun thinking about what we
>> really liked about the blog platform. We liked that there was, for
>> many blogs, a common theme identifying them as blogs from our
>> community. We liked they were easily syndicated on our planet[1]. We
>> liked how easy it was for a new volunteer in a local group to start
>> writing about what happened in the group.
> 
> Which seems to be connected to what you're talking about. What I get
> from this discussion is we should actually have something that meet
> these needs *before* we do anything with the current platform.
> 
> What I've been thinking in this regard is we could have a single
> instance Wordpress (or similar) which every Fellow has an account in.
> This Wordpress would be the platform for communication and blogging
> about what is happening within the FSFE and would have a common and
> single theme.
> 
> Each author could have an "Author's section" (ie., "show all posts by
> stehmann") where their blog posts appear. But group coordinators and
> others could also promote their blog posts to the front page, which
> would provide the planet-like overview of the main activities. If
> some individual Fellow posts a blog post about Fellowship activities,
> this could also be promoted to the front page.
> 
> This all needs some work, and it may need to be language aware (I
> would *love* if all outside communication from the FSFE was available
> in English, but posts may need to be in a local language too).
> 
> Florian, since you offered to help, I'll start a separate thread with
> our systems administrator and outline the above there too, and you can
> weigh in on what you think would be doable. Thanks so much!
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> -- 
> Jonas Öberg, Executive Director
> Free Software Foundation Europe | jonas at fsfe.org
> Your donation enables our work (fsfe.org/donate)
> 
> 
> Nach entsprechenden Eingaben ist dies wohl der letzte Stand von Jonas
> Überlegungen:
> 
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> Betreff: Re: Thoughts about our blog platform
> Datum: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 09:39:00 +0200
> Von: Jonas Oberg <jonas at fsfe.org>
> An: Florian Snow <floriansnow at fsfe.org>
> Kopie (CC): Dr. Michael Stehmann <anwalt at rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>,
> guido at fsfe.org, pboddie at fsfe.org, franz.gratzer at fsfe.org,
> stehmann at fsfe.org, stargrave at fsfe.org
> 
> Hi Florian,
> 
>> I think these are two separate issues and they are both important.
> 
> I think you're right about them being separate, but I disagree about
> the communication structure :-) My main concern is this:
> 
>> The Wordpress instance is for people who are unable or
>> unwilling to set up their own blogging platform.
> 
> This is what I don't quite agree with: I think the Wordpress instance
> (blogs.fsfe.org) has a specific communication purpose, I don't think
> the FSFE should have the role to setup technical infrastructures for
> people who are unable or unwilling to do so themselves: then we become
> a service provider.
> 
> I see it as blogs.fsfe.org is where we all write about what's
> happening in the FSFE. It's where someone from a Fellowship group
> would write to report from a local meeting, it's where I would write
> to introduce a new intern, or similarly.
> 
> The planet.fsfe.org I see as the aggregation of both what's happening
> internally, but also what's happening in our community at large, which
> is not necessarily related to the FSFE. If someone writes a blog post
> (anywhere) about their latest explorations with Arch, this should
> probably be syndicated on planet.fsfe.org, but it wouldn't necessarily
> be on the front page of blogs.fsfe.org.
> 
> There is an overlap: if someone really does not want to have their own
> blog, but would want to write about their explorations with free
> software on blogs.fsfe.org, they could do so, and it would be
> syndicated on planet.fsfe.org, but they would only promote the clearly
> FSFE related posts to the front page.
> 
> I hope that makes sense as an explanation of how I'm thinking :)
> 
> -- 
> Jonas Öberg, Executive Director
> Free Software Foundation Europe | jonas at fsfe.org
> Your donation enables our work (fsfe.org/donate)
> 
> Es gab noch weitere E-Mails in dem Teilnehmerkreis der ersten E-Mail;
> aber ich denke, der Stand der Überlegungen von Jonas wird aus den
> vorstehenden ersichtlich.
> 
> Lasst uns _diese_ Sache zu einem guten Ende bringen!
> 
> Wir können und sollten danach auch über das Prozedere zusammen mit Jonas
> und allen Teilnehmern reflektieren, um daraus für die Zukunft Lehren zu
> ziehen.
> 
> Gruß
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
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