Blog-Streik
Dr. Michael Stehmann
anwalt at rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de
Sa Apr 16 10:18:59 UTC 2016
Hallo,
Am 16.04.2016 um 10:29 schrieb Werner Koch:
>
> Als aktiver Leser gelte ich nicht als Nutzer? Jedenfalls habe ich der
> Sache nichts gehört - wo ist das denn wieder diskutiert worden? Sonst
> wird doch über jeden Schnickschack (z.B. Technik wie die Newsletter
> versendet werden) in aller Breite diskutiert.
>
Im festen Glauben an Kooperation und Transparenz und damit möglichst
jeder interessierte Deutschsprachige informiert ist, leite ich Jonas
erste E-Mail in dieser Angelegenheit an mich und andere weiter:
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Betreff: Thoughts about our blog platform
Datum: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 21:08:10 +0200
Von: Jonas Oberg <jonas at fsfe.org>
An: guido at fsfe.org, pboddie at fsfe.org, franz.gratzer at fsfe.org,
floriansnow at fsfe.org, stehmann at fsfe.org, stargrave at fsfe.org
Dear all,
you're getting this mail because you've been using the FSFE's blog
platform in the latest month or two, and thus being one of the more
regular contributors.
We're currently facing a situation where our blog platform has not
been updated in quite some time, and getting up to date with latest
Wordpress versions would be a herculean effort. In addition, we are
now forced to restart the blog server sometimes six times per day due to
bugs making it crash.
This is obviously not sustainable, and we've been considering in the
system administration team whether to keep the blog system up and
finding a way to do the massive upgrades needed, or to stop offering
blogs as a service to fellows.
We're currently leaning towards the second option: when we started
offering blogs, it was a nice service, and made it easy to get a blog
setup. These days, it's easy to setup your own blog or to have a
blog hosted elsewhere, and the use of our blog platform has also
decreased rapidly in the last years.
I'm attaching a draft of a mail below, which we've been considering to
send out to announce such a shutdown, and as the most frequent users
of our blog platform, I would like to hear your thoughts on the
matter, before taking any action.
Sincerely,
--
Jonas Öberg, Executive Director
Free Software Foundation Europe | jonas at fsfe.org
Your donation enables our work (fsfe.org/donate)
Beigefügt war folgende E-Mail:
Removing our blogs service.eml
Betreff:
Removing our blogs service
Von:
Jonas Oberg <jonas at fsfe.org>
Datum:
31.03.2016 20:16
An:
fellows at silk
Dear Fellow,
when the FSFE began offering our blog platform, it was a genuinely
useful thing to do. The number of providers who offered blogging
software was more limited. Since then, the situation has changed,
and it's much easier for anyone to get a blog today. It takes little
effort and most of the alternatives would be more modern than what the
FSFE offer today.
We've decided that it's time for our blog platform to retire and by
the 1st of July 2016, we'll remove the blog platform completely.
Partly for the reason outlined above, and partly because we've
encountered technical problems with our current setup which would take
significant resources to adress. We've already stopped registration of
new blogs. For anyone currently using our blog platform, you have a
few options of how to proceed at this point.
Option #1: You can migrate your blog elsewhere, using first the
Tools/Export option in our Wordpress to export a database
dump. You should then contact system-hackers at fsfeurope.org
to get a copy of your uploaded files folder. Lastly, when
you have a new blog setup, our system-hackers can also
setup a redirect from the old address to the new address.
Option #2: If you'd like us to archive your blog as a set of static
web pages, we can also do this for you. We'll be using
a simple "wget" crawler to make the copy. This will not be
perfect, but it will be something. Again, you should
contact system-hackers at fsfeurope.org for this.
Option #3: Do nothing. In this case, the blog will be decomissioned.
As we take this decision, we've also begun thinking about what we
really liked about the blog platform. We liked that there was, for
many blogs, a common theme identifying them as blogs from our
community. We liked they were easily syndicated on our planet[1]. We
liked how easy it was for a new volunteer in a local group to start
writing about what happened in the group.
Moving forward, we'll think about how we can take the parts we
liked, and see if we can not realise the same with a more modern
platform. We will not install anything new for the foreseeable future
though.
Please contact system-hackers at fsfeurope.org if you have any questions
or would like assistance.
Sincerely,
--
Jonas Öberg, Executive Director
Free Software Foundation Europe | jonas at fsfe.org
Your donation enables our work (fsfe.org/donate)
Jonas Antwort auf unsere Eingaben klang für mich hoffnungsvoll:
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Betreff: Re: Thoughts about our blog platform
Datum: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 05:21:30 +0200
Von: Jonas Oberg <jonas at fsfe.org>
An: Dr. Michael Stehmann <anwalt at rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>
Kopie (CC): guido at fsfe.org, pboddie at fsfe.org, franz.gratzer at fsfe.org,
floriansnow at fsfe.org, stehmann at fsfe.org, stargrave at fsfe.org
Hi Michael, Florian,
> I use my blog very often to write reports of our meetings and other
> activities, So it is an important tool for me and the memory of our group.
Thank you both! It seems both of you find consensus on that the blog
platform is for group communication, rather than personal
communication. Allow me to draw your attention to this passage in the
mail I forwarded:
> As we take this decision, we've also begun thinking about what we
> really liked about the blog platform. We liked that there was, for
> many blogs, a common theme identifying them as blogs from our
> community. We liked they were easily syndicated on our planet[1]. We
> liked how easy it was for a new volunteer in a local group to start
> writing about what happened in the group.
Which seems to be connected to what you're talking about. What I get
from this discussion is we should actually have something that meet
these needs *before* we do anything with the current platform.
What I've been thinking in this regard is we could have a single
instance Wordpress (or similar) which every Fellow has an account in.
This Wordpress would be the platform for communication and blogging
about what is happening within the FSFE and would have a common and
single theme.
Each author could have an "Author's section" (ie., "show all posts by
stehmann") where their blog posts appear. But group coordinators and
others could also promote their blog posts to the front page, which
would provide the planet-like overview of the main activities. If
some individual Fellow posts a blog post about Fellowship activities,
this could also be promoted to the front page.
This all needs some work, and it may need to be language aware (I
would *love* if all outside communication from the FSFE was available
in English, but posts may need to be in a local language too).
Florian, since you offered to help, I'll start a separate thread with
our systems administrator and outline the above there too, and you can
weigh in on what you think would be doable. Thanks so much!
Sincerely,
--
Jonas Öberg, Executive Director
Free Software Foundation Europe | jonas at fsfe.org
Your donation enables our work (fsfe.org/donate)
Nach entsprechenden Eingaben ist dies wohl der letzte Stand von Jonas
Überlegungen:
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Betreff: Re: Thoughts about our blog platform
Datum: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 09:39:00 +0200
Von: Jonas Oberg <jonas at fsfe.org>
An: Florian Snow <floriansnow at fsfe.org>
Kopie (CC): Dr. Michael Stehmann <anwalt at rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>,
guido at fsfe.org, pboddie at fsfe.org, franz.gratzer at fsfe.org,
stehmann at fsfe.org, stargrave at fsfe.org
Hi Florian,
> I think these are two separate issues and they are both important.
I think you're right about them being separate, but I disagree about
the communication structure :-) My main concern is this:
> The Wordpress instance is for people who are unable or
> unwilling to set up their own blogging platform.
This is what I don't quite agree with: I think the Wordpress instance
(blogs.fsfe.org) has a specific communication purpose, I don't think
the FSFE should have the role to setup technical infrastructures for
people who are unable or unwilling to do so themselves: then we become
a service provider.
I see it as blogs.fsfe.org is where we all write about what's
happening in the FSFE. It's where someone from a Fellowship group
would write to report from a local meeting, it's where I would write
to introduce a new intern, or similarly.
The planet.fsfe.org I see as the aggregation of both what's happening
internally, but also what's happening in our community at large, which
is not necessarily related to the FSFE. If someone writes a blog post
(anywhere) about their latest explorations with Arch, this should
probably be syndicated on planet.fsfe.org, but it wouldn't necessarily
be on the front page of blogs.fsfe.org.
There is an overlap: if someone really does not want to have their own
blog, but would want to write about their explorations with free
software on blogs.fsfe.org, they could do so, and it would be
syndicated on planet.fsfe.org, but they would only promote the clearly
FSFE related posts to the front page.
I hope that makes sense as an explanation of how I'm thinking :)
--
Jonas Öberg, Executive Director
Free Software Foundation Europe | jonas at fsfe.org
Your donation enables our work (fsfe.org/donate)
Es gab noch weitere E-Mails in dem Teilnehmerkreis der ersten E-Mail;
aber ich denke, der Stand der Überlegungen von Jonas wird aus den
vorstehenden ersichtlich.
Lasst uns _diese_ Sache zu einem guten Ende bringen!
Wir können und sollten danach auch über das Prozedere zusammen mit Jonas
und allen Teilnehmern reflektieren, um daraus für die Zukunft Lehren zu
ziehen.
Gruß
Michael
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