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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/18/2016 08:03 PM, Charles Cossť
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      <div dir="ltr">On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 7:35 AM, mray <span
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                On 17.12.2016 18:46, Charles Cossť wrote:<br>
                > What would that matter?<br>
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              </span>The question is "why would it not matter?"<br>
              Free Software seems like a sensible default.<br>
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              Why would I ever *prefer* trusting my body/life with
              software that is a<br>
              secret to everybody but the manufacturer?<br>
              (Same with all kinds of transportation like cars, buses,
              planes,...)<br>
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            <div>Another point which I'd like to discuss is: Where does
              FSF draw the line?† Are there not some instances where not
              revealing everything is alright?† We put our faith in
              closed systems every day, and software is just one type.†
              It seems like this same notion of freedom would/should
              apply everywhere, if it is real or universal, and not just
              to software.† <br>
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    The questions you ask here are very basic and can be answered by
    yourself if you read the articles at <br>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html">http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html</a> carefully.</p>
    <p>E.g., nobody are "giving away their intellectual property" when
      releasing free software e.g. under the GPL.† And some of the main
      systems that govern your life actually *are* supposed to be
      transparent - e.g.. society, where you have various FOIA acts.<br>
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    <p>Note also that this mailing list is not organized by the FSF but
      by the FSFE, which is a different organization, thus questions
      about the FSF's stand on different subjects can't really be
      answered here. But the answers to the more basic points are at the
      gny.org/philosophy link.<br>
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