Fwd: Consultation on fixing issues of the internet

Adonay Felipe Nogueira adfeno at hyperbola.info
Sat Sep 16 20:31:16 UTC 2017

I have sent my suggestion, mainly about reforming the current HTML
standard so as, if the web browsers support a client-side scripting
language, they display a message with license information, source files
location, a noticeable message about the dangers of non-free software, a
buttom to inspect the script source, and a question asking if the
script should be "denied for now", "accepted for now", "black listed" or
"white listed" --- this dialog should of course repeat for every script
except for the black listed and white listed ones.

As basis for my argumentation I cited:

- <https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/REC-html51-20161101/>.

- <https://media.libreplanet.org/u/zakkai/m/javascript-if-you-love-it-set-it-free-54ab/>.

- <https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/the-surreptitious-assault-on-privacy-security-and-freedom/>.

But there is even more:

- <http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/2015-10-24--rms--free-software-and-your-freedom--seagl--speech.ogv>.

- <https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/bradley-kuhn-fork-and-ignore/>.

- <https://sfconservancy.org/videos/2015-01-15_Bradley-Kuhn_Future-of-Copyleft_LCA-2015.webm>.

Matthias Kirschner <mk at fsfe.org> writes:

> Hello everybody,
> do you think a certain aspect of the core internet technology is broken?
> Do you have an idea what could be done about it? This is the time to
> submit your idea to:
>                      https://nlnet.nl/NGI
> Best Regards,
> Matthias
> PS: Below some more information by Michiel:
> * Michiel Leenaars [2017-07-24 08:07 +0200]:
> [...]
> please find some information about the consultation for the European
> Next Generation Internet initiative to pass on to your members. To
> clarify: we are looking for the 'technical debt' (or put differently,
> 'skeletons in the closet') of the internet, i.e. what is preventing the
> internet as a whole from moving forward. And what could be done about
> it, given that the EC is embarking on a Next Generation Internet
> initiative and we can try to direct public funding to it. While there is
> plenty of innovative work happening at the fringes, the core internet
> technology that is actually being run at internet scale is not actually
> properly absorbing that work - in a sense creating even more chaos than
> if nothing would have happened. We are looking for intervention logic to
> get things going again.
> The context is the following:
> NLnet foundation (the independent charity I work, which was was set up
> by pioneers of the European internet) and Gartner were invited by the
> European Commision to write the vision for their Next Generation
> Internet initiative, as well as prioritise the key topics for funding.
> We are organising the process in a much broader way than previous
> 'next-gen internet' efforts (of which there were quite a few), as we
> believe these were doomed to fail from the start because they only
> pushed for 'innovation' and never involved the right people (= the
> people that actually design and operate the 'current' internet). Not to
> mention that you need people from adjacent areas (such as operating
> systems and browsers) to be involved. Note that many of the people and
> organisations we think could make the most difference tend to avoid the
> public funding machinery, because they have their own funding and little
> need for bureaucracy and forced consortia. However, this leaves many
> issues unresolved, and we want to change that. (we are also eager to see
> the unfortunate bureaucracy and forced consortia go away, and likely
> that will happen too in the context of the NGI initiative - which is
> really awesome).
> We actually went to get support from all the leading European umbrella
> organisations - besides FSFE we approached RIPE (the European regional
> internet registry), CENTR (organisation of domain registries), GEANT
> (research networks), ISP associations, the digital civil rights
> community (EDRi) and Internet Society, etc. So not just the separate
> communities that operate different layers of the technology but also
> what we consider 'ethical guardians' of the internet. And we are not
> looking to just get their presidents, managing directors or CTO's
> involved, but also harvest 'bottom up' - under water the iceberg looks
> rather different, and there are quite some issues that are not in view
> at the management level. We are therefore very thankful for you relaying
> this information to your members.
> You can either send you ideas (in any shape or form, although written
> can concise is preferred) by mail to us (ngi at nlnet.nl), or fill
> out the open online consultation at:
>                      https://nlnet.nl/NGI
> (that is conceptually like an issue tracker, and helps us to isolate the
> individual actions - we believe by now that no single issue by itself is
> responsible, the ossification of the internet is more 'death by a
> thousand cuts').
> We feel this is quite a unique opportunity for the internet to get
> funding to resolve a significant amount of technical debt that has
> accrued over the years, as well as stimulate new interesting work to
> hardening the internet and make it more resilient and keep it open - an
> area I expect your members to be quite interested in.
> I hope your membership has time to provide us with some input, and/or
> relay this to some interesting people (we are open to any suggestions).
> I have some additional information attached, if people have any
> questions do not hesitate to let us know - me and my colleagues are
> happy to help.
> Best,
> Michiel Leenaars
> [...]

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