Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

Daniel Pocock daniel at
Wed Jul 26 09:27:19 UTC 2017

On 26/07/17 10:53, Max Mehl wrote:
> Hi Jonas,
> # Jonas Oberg [2017-07-26 10:37 +0200]:
>>>  Some services are Free Software unfriendly and harm your privacy.
>> Are there any services we list which don't work with Free Software? If
>> so,
>> I think it's best to state that:
>>   Some services don't work with Free Software or harm your privacy.
>> If all services we list can be connected to with Free Software, then we
>> might well just shorten it to:
>>   Some services harm your privacy.
> Good point but not easy to answer. All services can be viewed with a
> Free Software browser but e.g. Facebook tries to convince you of
> downloading the non-free Messenger app (you cannot even write FB
> messages on your mobile browser anymore IIRC). LibreJS may also warn its
> users with most of these services' sites. Is this already Free Software
> unfriendly?

This is also a question of narrative: such behaviour has traditionally
been viewed as social engineering[1] for the purpose of a privilege
escalation[2] attack.

There is debate[3] in the Mozilla bug tracker about sites behaving like
this, could you submit the Facebook example there?




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