Ubuntu's not GNU/Linux?

[Kristian Rink]

Am 20.04.2010 10:22, schrieb Graziano:
> I think we should try to achieve freedom when it is possible.

Yes, definitely. I don't think our opinions differ here. :)

> What I see, instead, is free software activists installing ubuntu and then
> giving up without explaiing the four freedoms, the philosophy behind the
> GNU operating system and the fact that ubuntu is not a fully free software
> distro.

But the first thing is not Ubuntus fault but rather "just"(?) a problem 
of the activists involved, isn't it? I mean, explaining the "four 
freedoms" is something that has to happen in any case, not? Even running 
a "completely software libre" platform, people suddenly could come up 
with the idea to, in example, run VirtualBox and a Windows installation 
inside of that. This kind of "user education" is required no matter how 
free the system to start with initially was/is.

> Fully free software GNU/Linux distributions are here now.
> Let's try to install, push, explain those ones instead of just "installing
> ubuntu" first, would you?

In most cases - yes, and yet I would like to make this depending upon 
the very user and situation. I still consider the Ubuntu Philosophy a 
good entry point into that there is more about "software libre" than 
just downloading free bits off the internet. Even while the Ubuntu 
Philosophy is not really what "software libre" is all about, it might 
give some user completely new to that kind of approach (and eventually 
considering software just another "product") an easy-on first contact 
point for learning that there eventually is more to it, and there is 
more to it one should actually care about...

K.


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