Similar discussion list but not only for Europe?

Noah Slater nslater at
Mon Mar 9 12:45:48 UTC 2009

On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 12:41:11PM +0000, David Gerard wrote:
> Similarly, the Debian Free Software Guidelines disallow the GFDL. The
> FSF continues to advocate the GFDL. Therefore the FSF does not care
> about software freedom.

The FSF invented the concept.

> The fallacy in both cases is going beyond "black and white thinking"
> to using special definitions of the words "black" and "white".
> The FSF and OSI have different set-out goals, but that does not mean
> the FSF owns specific English-language terms.

Unfortunately, where I would normally agree here, the FSF's definition of
software freedom is the canonical one. Debian has it's DFSG, which is fine. The
OSI has it's own too, which is great. But it is perfectly reasonable for someone
with an FSF hat on to disagree that this is free software.


Noah Slater,

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