Raymond, climate

Michael Kesper mkesper at schokokeks.org
Thu Dec 10 12:27:36 UTC 2009


On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 08:41:53AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> Michael Kesper <mkesper at schokokeks.org> writes:
> > I'm not too sure.
> > 1. The analogy is false: Cathedrals were built very much like he
> > describes bazaars.
> That's irrelevant to the analogy, since it doesn't compare the building
> *of* cathedrals versus the building *of* bazaars. Instead, it compares
> the social activities that *go on within* already-built cathedrals
> versus bazaars, and the resulting *output* of those societies.

Ah, ok, good point.

> > 2. Development models are orthogonal to the question of whether a
> > software is free or not.
> (The term you want is not “a software”, since the English-language
> “software” is uncountable like “hardware” or “sand”. Better to use the
> (copyright-inspired) term “a work”.)

Thanks. Besides, does one call that "germanism" like we say "Anglizismus"
in german? ;)

> I agree, and that seems to be close to the core of the difference
> between “open source” versus “free software”: Raymond emphasises the
> utility of the process as more important than the freedom of the result.
> I prefer to talk about free software, as I suspect do you.

Definitely. :)

> Note, though, that Carsten's comment still holds: there are many aspects
> of the essay that are appreciably good.
> It's a valuable story and a good analogy for development processes. It
> shows that free software is *better* at encouraging bazaar-style
> development, but it doesn't *guarantee* it — as pointed out by its
> examples of cathedral-style development of free software.

Point taken.

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