firefox, iceweasel, burningdog, icecat, ...

Sam Liddicott sam at
Fri Oct 31 11:13:09 UTC 2008

* Reinhard Mueller wrote, On 31/10/08 10:38:
> Am Freitag, den 31.10.2008, 10:57 +0100 schrieb Andreas K. Foerster:
>> We are - at least I am - talking about the freedom of choice for the
>> users!
> Somebody who has to install and use the proprietary flash player to view
> content (because, for example, gnash isn't able yet to display it) does
> *not* have the freedom of choice.
in both senses :-) for having had to do it and for having done it (and
possible for not being able to do it but "needing" to?)
> It does of course make sense to give somebody who is chained to
> proprietary software by proprietary data formats or protocols as much
> freedom as possible, but telling these people that they "may" keep their
> left foot caught in a trap while they walk free with their right foot is
> "freedom of choice" isn't quite to the point, IMHO.
It's true, telling them that this is freedom isn't quite to the point.

But telling the that they are on their way to greater freedom may be to
the point.

I'm not opposed to giving people as much freedom as they are able to
handle. If they are able to appreciate it by degrees they may desire it
by greater degrees.

Any creature in captivity must be accustomed to freedom before being
made free.

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