[Fwd: Re: Please oppose patent-encumbered technologies, including draft-housley-tls-authz-extns]
Simon Josefsson
simon at josefsson.org
Fri Feb 1 08:10:45 UTC 2008
Ben Finney <ben-TqlCGjI+HWGnbCmf7pGUHw at public.gmane.org> writes:
> On 01-Nov-2007, Simon Josefsson wrote:
>> Ben Finney <ben-TqlCGjI+HWGnbCmf7pGUHw-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg at public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>> > Over on the IETF discussion list, I've been asked to "present
>> > evidence" about the patent-encumbered status of the technology in
>> > 'draft-housley-tls-authz-extns'.
>
>> As far as I know, there is only a patent application at this time,
>> but it is likely to be published as a patent eventually.
>
> Thanks. Can you point us to information about the specific patent
> application?
It is mentioned in the IETF IPR notification:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/912/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_detail_show.cgi?ipr_id=833
It seems down now though... searching for the patent number given in
that notification should work.
>> The author's company was founded in 2005. I'm not sure what "patent
>> enforcement" means in practice. In any case, I'm not aware of any
>> lawsuits from them, but I haven't looked. They have been trying to
>> get GnuTLS to sign their patent license though.
>
> I don't suppose any of this is online where I can point others to it?
Some of it is available on the ietf at ietf.org list, but I think the
specific requests were in private emails. The license is available
directly from them:
http://redphonesecurity.com/license.htm
http://redphonesecurity.com/RedPhoneSecurity_GeneralUseLicense_TLSAuthorizations_2007-06-18.pdf
Since I wouldn't be able to sign anything on behalf of GnuTLS or the FSF
anyway, I asked them to talk to the FSF instead.
/Simon
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