Relevance of this post? Re: Jonathan Parr presents

MJ Ray mjr at
Fri Nov 2 14:22:59 UTC 2007

simo <simo.sorce at> wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 11:40 +0100, Reinhard Mueller wrote:
> > Yes, he is. And more than that, he is one of the modern spam bots that
> > is able to subscribe to mailman mailing lists. :-(
> > 
> > If this problem gets worse, we have to think about a solution.
> Captcha on subscribe, it's becoming necessary :(

Please do *NOT* put a bloody eyetest on this mailing list.  That will
almost certainly lock out people like me, while allowing in some
robots with visual-recognition code.  If you want to test spamminess,
then eyesight and hearing have little to do with that.  If anything,
I suspect spammers probably average better on eyesight and hearing
tests than the general population these days ;-) I have met one user
who read by touch, with solenoids pushing on fingers and I think I've
seen braille strip output devices in the past - why should we lock
such people out or give them second-class service unnecessarily?

I believe the best test would be to put new members on moderation-hold
until they make some sensible posts.  (Ultimately, who cares if it's a
bot if it's posting relevant stuff? ;-> )  Shouldn't the FSFE be
following best practice instead of false sense of security?

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