Defining Free Software Business (please read this before believing anything about debian from ams at gnu)

Alfred M. Szmidt ams at
Wed Jun 28 08:19:44 UTC 2006

   I view this repeated instruction to stop essential medication as
   wishing harm upon me and entirely beneath contempt.  People who use
   such tactics should be excluded from the discussion.

Your tactis are far worse, using my CV as some kind of way of starting
yet more personal attack towards me.

   Trying to confuse an operating system with a project, and Suggests
   with Recommends or Depends are both childish.  Telling others not
   to mention non-free software while advertising oneself for work as
   a Windows user seems hypocritical:

I am not advertising any non-free software in there, please get a idea
what a CV contains.  I expect an apology from you for resorting to
such insulting means of starting to use my resume against me.  It is
simply not acceptable.

   It does not include one.

It does so.  You have quoted the relevant parts:

   'works that do not conform to the Debian Free Software
   Guidelines. We have created "contrib" and "non-free" areas in our
   archive for these works. The packages in these areas are not part
   of the Debian system' --

_Debian_ has created in _their_ _archives_ non-free areas for users.
This is clearly supporting non-free software, clearly it is giving
space for non-free software.  That they weasle out with `these areas
are not part of the Debian system' is irrelevant.

   > Because it _includes and supports_ non-free software.  It is
   > really that simple.

   Is that an official GNU project position?  It's whack.  Debian
   doesn't include non-free software and GNU supports non-free
   software as much as Debian

"We have created "contrib" and "non-free" areas in our archive for
these works" Where does GNU support non-free software in this manner?

   I claim that GNU (the software) does host non-free software
   somewhere.  There is a difference between project and product.

GNU is a operating system, and is hosted on the GNU project machines
(, Where does the GNU system "host"
non-free software exactly?  You have claimed this several times, with
no single example.

   I pointed out that the GNU project recently assisted projects more
   proprietary-vendor-like than debian.

Which projects are these?

  I understand that Sun's Java software will run on GNU.

Maybe it can, maybe it cannot.  But the GNU system and project do not
use it, distribute it, nor support it.  Compare this to what Debian
does, which supports its usage, distributes it and uses it.

Your baseless attacks are boring.  You have refused to answer any of
the claims of what the GNU project/system host for non-free software.
You have resorted on several occasions to personal attacks, and this
time you simply went to far and started quoting my CV.  If anyone
should be excluded from this list it is you.

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