Tarun from Nepal - logiciels libres dans prise de position SMSI

Chantal Peyer peyer at bfa-ppp.ch
Mon Mar 24 08:06:23 UTC 2003

Chère Claude,

Juste un petite précision d'abord: je ne suis pas "member of the executive
committee for WSIS".. Ou alors qu'entends-tu par-là? Je suis simplement
représentante de Pain pour le prochain (et des ONG Nors-Sud membres de la
communauté de travail) au sein de la délégation officielle suisse....

Pour les logiciels libres. Jai relu ce week-end les déclarations de la
société civile lors de la prepcopm2, et je pense que les deux textes
(déclarations et plan d'action)  contiennent des revendications importantes
sur la question des logiciels libres. Voir http://www.worldsummit2003.de/
(section: Zweite WSIS Vorbereitungskonferenz PrepCom2
Worldsummit2003.de berichtete; puis Zivilgesellschaft: Thematische
Arbeitsgruppen und Stellungnahmen, puis ting Group for the Common Statements
of Civil Society) pour trouver ces documents.

 Quelques exemples des demandes de la société civile pour le plan d'action:

ð Authors must be encouraged to retain ownership of their copyrights and not
to automatically transfer copyrights to publishers or other intermediaries.
ð Non-commercial use and private copy of digital contents should be regarded
and protected as fair use.
ð Computer software has different characteristics from other creative works
in that it is functional/technical works and has no meaning as a public
domain after the protection period. So, computer software should not be
protected by copyright, or at least, the protection period of computer
software should be shortened.
ð Open Source/Free Software shall be adopted by all public authorities and
ð Developing countries should investigate how to leverage the opportunities
presented by the emergence of Open Source/Free software in the context of
limited financial resources and expertise.
ð Change current intellectual property regimes so that all information and
knowledge produced with the aid of public resources, for example the outputs
of publicly funded educational and research institutions, are automatically
released as open content and made available and accessible at no cost into
the public domain.

ð Software shall not be patentable, in principle.
ð Business model (or method) patent should not be allowed.
ð A first-to-invent instead a first-to-file patent application rule shall be
adopted, in order to better preserve the rights of academic scientists and
low-income inventors.
ð The purpose of patent is to develop technology and thus to promote the
quality of life such as health, etc. In line with it, national policy to
limit patent holders right for public health such as compulsory licensing
and parallel importation should be allowed without interference of other
countries as addressed in the declaration on TRIPS agreement and public
health adopted in Doha WTO ministerial conference.

Il faut à mon avis s'en inspirer pour des demandes suisses.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Claude Almansi" <claude.almansi at bluewin.ch>
To: "Chantal Peyer" <peyer at bfa-ppp.ch>; "Michel Egger"
<megger at swisscoalition.ch>; "Marie Thorndahl" <marie at mondes.info>
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 10:51 AM
Subject: TR : Tarun from Nepal - logiciels libres dans prise de position

Chers Amis

J'ai connu Tarun à la réunion UNESCO à Lugano. C'est en partie son
journal www.spacetimeonline.com qui m'a poussée à demander que les
suisses présents cessent de parler de "pays moins avancés" en matière de
TIC pour des pays moins avantagés, mais qui ont les idées beaucoup plus
claires que nous dans ce domaine.

Je crois que sa réaction, pour brève qu'elle soit est symptomatique de
l'importance des logiciels libres pour les pays du sud. Je n'écris pas à
toute la liste comunica-ch à dessein Pas que je  veuille cacher la chose
à Modoux - mais je ne veux pas non plus le mettre dans une position

A mardi

-----Message d'origine-----
De : tarun poudel [mailto:tarunpoudel at hotmail.com]
Envoyé : samedi 22 mars 2003 09:24
À : claude.almansi at bluewin.ch
Objet : Re: Tarun from Nepal

Dear Claude Almansi
Greeting from Nepal
Thanks for rememberance. I arrived Nepal on 20 March evening.
I fully support your point.We can go together.
Tarun K Poudel
Secretary General
Nepal Press Union

>From: "Claude Almansi" <claude.almansi at bluewin.ch>
>To: "Tarun Poudel" <tarunpoudel at hotmail.com>,"Martin Musunka"
><M_musunka at yahoo.com>
>Subject: TR : [wilhelmtux-discussion] Re: World Summit on the
>Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:51:47 +0100
>Dear Tarun and Martin,
>I hope you both have arrived safely back at home and aren't too tired.
>I thought you might both be interested by this forward. Chantal is both

>among the managers of the Swiss Civil Society platform for SWIS
>(www.comunica-ch.net ), and member of the executive committee for WSIS.

>Sascha I first corresponded with through Wilhelm Tux, our
>pro-open-software association. I think now Wilhelm Tux has joined the
>civil society platform - at least Sacha Brawer and Alex Schröder have.
>Now if the governments - the core of WSIS, as Alain Modoux said on
>Sunday - are really going to reinforce this line, i.e. no mention of
>opensource software and an accrued insistance on "security" (as a means

>to curtail rights and liberties), my guess is that Civil Society might
>consider seriously the possibility of a counter summit. Some
>organisations were already pushing in this direction at the PrepCom2 in

>february. It would be a pity, because it would be better to be heard at

>the official summit, even at a side event. But not to be reduced to
>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : wilhelmtux-discussion-bounces at wilhelmtux.ch
>[mailto:wilhelmtux-discussion-bounces at wilhelmtux.ch] De la part de
>Chantal Peyer Envoyé : mardi 18 mars 2003 15:03
>À : Sascha Brawer; discussion at fsfeurope.org; Wilhelm Tux; gnu at gnu.org;
>team at fsfeurope.org
>Cc : Loic Dachary
>Objet : [wilhelmtux-discussion] Re: World Summit on the Information
>An interesting article for you, I believe:
>Chantal Peyer
>Geneva, 26 February 2003. The government delegations are currently
>working on the summit action plan, after they have debated the "vision"

>and "key principles" sections of the draft declaration. The latest
>version of the draft was scheduled to be out yesterday evening, but
>only came out to the public this morning. Civil society groups are
>working everywhere to produce comments and amendmends. The drafting
>group of civil society's "content and themes" committee is putting them

>together as a common input for the sessions of PrepCom subcommittee 2.
>There are a number of issues that are not welcome by many groups. For
>example, all mentions of "open source" and "free software" have been
>deleted completely in the current draft. "Security", which became a big

>theme in the recent months due to the US-led "war against terrorism"
>has got a whole section now, arguing for the need to "prevent the use
>of information resources or technologies for criminal or terrorist
>purposes". Civil society groups fear that this language would be used
>to legitimise new suveillance powers and weaken civil liberties. The
>European Union today circulated a "List of Issues" paper for the
>declaration themes and the action plan, which was mostly welcomed by
>Civil Society. But it is still unclear if the EU will use its
>international weight to really push this in the negotiations. The Greek

>presidency seems to be very calm, and the other EU government
>delegations leave it up to them to speak out publicly. These conflicts
>will continue in the coming months. Today it became clear that PrepCom2

>will not produce any final version of the draft summit declaration.
>With only one and a half days left for negotiations, time is running
>out. Today we heard that the outcome of PrepCom2 will probably only get

>the status of a "rough draft". This working document will further be
>discussed in an "intersessional process" before PrepCom3 in September.
>It is still not clear if this will be an open process with
>participation of all stakeholders, or if the government delegations
>will meet behind closed doors only. But even if the intersessional
>process is open, it creates heavy problems for the real participation
>of many disadvantaged actors. The poorest countries which do not have
>permanent missions to the United Nations in Geneva might not have the
>ressources to attend all these meetings, and the high costs for
>traveling and staying in this expensive city will prevent a lot of
>civil society groups from participating, too.
>The lack of openness and inclusion of all stakeholders again led to
>sharp criticism in the open session of subcommittee 2 this morning. The

>private sector delegates were really annoyed by the exclusion, and the
>international organisations and civil society speakers voiced their
>critique along the same lines. The president of the PrepCom, Adama
>Samassekou, was quite impressed by these complaints. He invited the
>heads of the government delegations to a special discussion on
>multi-stakeholder participation and involvement. We have not heard any
>outcomes yet, but we will closely follow the further progress of these
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sascha Brawer" <brawer at acm.org>
>To: <discussion at fsfeurope.org>; "Wilhelm Tux"
><wilhelmtux-discussion at wilhelmtux.ch>; <gnu at gnu.org>;
><team at fsfeurope.org>
>Cc: "Loic Dachary" <loic at gnu.org>; "Chantal Peyer" <peyer at bfa-ppp.ch>
>Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 4:09 AM
>Subject: World Summit on the Information Society
>Hi all
>It seems that the Free Software movement has well-informed allies in
>rather unexpected areas.  At least to me, it was news that traditional
>development-collaboration organizations are concerned about Information

>Technology, to an extent that they are discussing software patents with

>the Patent Office.  So, please let me describe an experience before I
>ask a few questions.
>Today, a number of Swiss non-governmental organizations met in Berne to

>discuss WSIS, the United Nations World Summit on the Information
>Society [1] whose first part will take place in Geneva in December
>2003.  Most of the audience was rather remote from computing: Besides
>Alex Schröder and myself, who were both representing Wilhelm Tux [2],
>probably pretty much everyone else was from a media, development,
>women's, human rights, ... organization. Correspondingly, a big part of

>the discussion was about topics like the digital divide, community
>radios, or oppression of journalists -- all very important, but not
>immediately related to Free Software.
>However, the official position paper ('platform') of the Swiss NGOs [3]

>does include short statements about Free Software and Intellectual
>Property rights.  The symposium brochure contains several paragraphs
>about these topics.  Actually, the organizers turned out to be quite
>familiar with the goals of our movement.  For example, Chantal Peyer of

>'Bread for All' [4], who co-organized the symposium, has read the GNU
>philosophy pages and is well aware of the discussion around software
>patents.  Chantal told me that their position on the patent system
>actually is one of the areas where they got into a debate with the
>Swiss administration, so they had discussions with a representative
>from the patent office.
>I was quite surprised and delighted to hear this, of course.  In my
>humble opinion, the least we as proponents of Free Software should do
>is to become more visible to these supporters of our goals.  While I
>personally doubt that big-scale events like WSIS can have very concrete

>effects, the world summit in December might be a good opportunity for
>getting publicity and more supporters. So, I'd like to ask a few
>* Does the FSF have any plans with regards to the WSIS summit in
>Geneva? I've found a few postings on the Web containing both 'WSIS' and

>('GNU' or 'FSF'), but nothing too concrete. The official list of WSIS
>participants does not seem to include FSF.
>* Are people at FSF Europe aware of WSIS? Did the country chapters
>establish any contacts to the respective preparation groups in their
>area? Maybe other groups will be surprised, too, to hear about
>unexpected supporters of Free Software.
>* Would it make sense to have more texts catering to NGOs, for instance

>explaining why Free Software is good for developing countries?
>* Another area where NGOs might become our ally is encryption: Why is
>it that the likes of Amnesty International, Greenpeace etc. are not
>loud voices in the discussion about outlawing cryptographic technology?

>After all, one would presume that these people had an interest in
>crypto being legal.
>* Wilhelm Tux could officially sign the Swiss NGO position paper [3].
>Personally, I wouldn't mind going to some preparatory meetings,
>explaining the Free Software movement to NGO people, etc., but I'm sure

>there are people around who are better suited for this.
>I'd be sorry if all this was old news to everyone but me. I did try to
>find information about FSF's participation at WSIS on the Web, but I
>had no real success.  I think it would be quite awkward if such a
>big-scale event about the "Information Society," which also is a chance

>to meet many potential supporters, was without the presence of one of
>the most important groups.
>Best regards
>-- Sascha Brawer, brawer at acm.org [5]
>    Berne, Switzerland
>[1] http://www.itu.int/wsis/
>[2] Swiss Campaign for Free Software, http://wilhelmtux.ch/ [3]
>http://www.comunica-ch.net/ (cf. sections II.5 and II.6) [4]
>Development NGO funded by Swiss protestant churches; http://www.ppp.ch/

>[5] http://www.coli.uni-sb.de/~brawer/
>     (I'm not there anymore and should have moved my page a long time
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