BitKeeper licence critic

Jeroen Dekkers jeroen at
Fri Mar 8 21:40:00 UTC 2002

On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 09:26:19PM +0000, Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 10:10:51PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> > And what if Linus likes BK and just doesn't release prepatches anymore
> > and just refers to the BK repository?
> What? The prepatches noone used because they are so experimental?
> Still, I get your point, but if there will be a time when Linus wont release
> those patches I can hardly believe the main reason will be BK.

Probably because they aren't needed anymore. And if Linux uses BK he
could decide that BK is replacing the prepatches system.
> > I go against all free software developers wanting to use
> > sourceforgetit already, saying that savannah is really a better
> > option.
> And did you stopped using those programs?

I don't track where every program is developped, I just use apt-get. I
have deleted my sourceforge account when they turned non-free and
don't participate in any development on sourceforge.

> > According to my knowledge vi (at least some implementations)
> > and mozilla are free.
> So is Linux. And I'm not sure about vi, I could only find a draft of
> a licence that wasn't sure about being GPL compatible.
> Yet, my point was that Mozilla is ported to run on Windows. Should Free
> software developers do that? And most of those developers program on
> Windows (that's why Mozilla is faster and better in Win32 than any other
> platform). Shouldn't we just stopping using Mozilla?

We should convince them that they should use free software.

> > Free software developers shouldn't use non-free software and promote
> > free software IMHO.
> By developing free software they're promoting free software. By personally
> using some not-so-free (not free, anyway) software they don't start
> promoting non-free against free software.

They do. They give the impression that they can't do everything with
free software and have to use non-free software. That isn't really
promoting free software.

> > My biggest reasons for not staying with Linux are technical.
> And the biggest reasons for Linux being widely used are technical, as
> are the biggest reasons for Hurd not being widely used nor developed upon...

Linux being widely used is a social thing, not a technical. On the
technical part, the Hurd has a much better design and the source code
is much cleaner.

Jeroen Dekkers
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