BitKeeper license critic
Joerg Schilling
schilling at fokus.gmd.de
Thu Mar 7 15:13:35 UTC 2002
>From: MJ Ray <markj+0111 at cloaked.freeserve.co.uk>
>Joerg Schilling <schilling at fokus.gmd.de> wrote:
>> If you like to pay, I believe you are welcome.
>> But please do not state that you _need_ to pay.
>But that is what the document says.
>>>Digging (very) deep in that site, it appears that I may not have to pay now,
>>>but they "reserve the right to charge for HTML/PDF versions of its
>>>publications in the future". Only a fool would agree to pay an unspecified
>>>amount at an unspecified future date.
>>
>> Please not not start to spread your assumptions, stay with the truth.
>How can I make any other inference? I quote the truth as it is stated on
>their pages. If I agree to those terms, I agree to their right to charge me
>an unspecified amount at a future date. Sorry, but no. Either that is an
>unjust contract, or it is misworded.
Sorry, but I cannot find anything about money:
http://www.unix-systems.org/version3/online.html
You register and get access.
>> It yould be nice if I could go to my baker and ask him for free bread just
>> bacause he could use my CD recording program for free.
>As I'm sure you're aware, we cannot reproduce bread for free.
>> It becomes more and more disappointing to see how users of free software
>> behave.
>I'm an author, not just a user. Sure, nothing as widely-used as your
>program, but the users of my software seem to find it useful nonetheless.
So it seems that there are not so many people sending you mail....
I am receiving far too much mail.
>> In case of cdrecord it is really disappointing to see my workload
>> constanly increasing because dumb and lazy people send me mail and nobody
>> is willing to contribute to the project. If users continue to behave this
>> way, many real free software authors will stop working on free software.
>If "real free software authors" behave as you do, they find themselves
>forked anyway, so does it matter? Sorry to be harsh, but we're not all
>beggars at the table of the programmer kings. I think it's more of a
But most of the users of free software have become demanding - not begging.
If you like to know the difference, just write a program that people really are
interested in. Maintain it for 5+ years and we may again discuss the result on
your life.
>>>> POSIX contains SCCS but does not contain VCS.
>>>Surely that is POSIX's flaw?
>> Why? SCCS uses the better file format, there is no reason to also
>> put CVS into the standard. The CPIO archive format also has been finally
>> removed in favor of TAR because it is not extensible.
>Sorry, I was suggesting that POSIX should contain a Version Control System
>specification rather than just the SCCS file format.
If you read the standard you would know that it specifies the user interface
to the version control system.
>1. NFS breaking because of clock desync between client and server.
>2. Linux 2.0 NFS didn't like talking to FreeBSD 3.x NFS.
>3. Solaris 7 NFS didn't like talking to 2.5.1.
>Nevertheless, if you start trying to solve the problems at the application
>level, you will have to solve them in every application. Problem 1 is an
>order of magnitude more common than anything else. Better to try to solve
>the other bugs in the implementation (which I tried and failed to do in case
>2 above). We have that freedom (but I didn't in case 3).
I never had any problems between differen Solaris releas.
Jörg
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