The FSF Europe recommends: avoid SourceForge
tjoad at gmx.it
Thu Nov 15 02:33:21 UTC 2001
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 03:14:14PM +0000, phil hunt wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 November 2001 3:29 am, MJ Ray wrote:
> > Phil:
> > > Open source and free software are the same thing (essentially)
> > > with a different name.
> > > Would a rose by another name smell as sweet?
> > Yes, but one man says it is pink, while another says it is red, so
> > there is disagreement.
> About the name, not the fact.
Uhmm... I don't want to be pedantic (and maybe we are just saying
the same thing), but, for the sake of clarity...
# Relationship between the Free Software movement and Open Source
# The Free Software movement and the Open Source movement are like
# two political camps within the free software community.
# Radical groups in the 1960s developed a reputation for
# factionalism: organizations split because of disagreements on
# details of strategy, and then hated each other. They agreed on
# the basic principles, and disagreed only on practical
# recommendations; but they considered each other enemies, and
# fought tooth and nail. Or at least, such is the image people
# have, whether or not it was accurate.
# The relationship between the Free Software movement and the Open
# Source movement is just the opposite of that picture. We
# disagree on the basic principles, but agree more or less on the
# practical recommendations. So we can and do work together on
# many specific projects. We don't think of the Open Source
# movement as an enemy. The enemy is proprietary software.
# We are not against the Open Source movement, but we don't want
# to be lumped in with them. We acknowledge that they have
# contributed to our community, but we created our community. We
# want people to associate our achievements with our values and
# our philosophy. We want to be heard, not hidden behind a
# different view.
So, Open Soure and Free Software are two different flowers --- even
if they may look similar (at least, sometimes). But, since they are
different, their name does matter... :-)
P.S.: one of the persons who really considered Open Source and Free
Software almost the same thing was Bruce Perens --- and, when
this consideration proved itself to be wrong, he left the OSI,
and started to speak about Free Software again...
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