questionary - who developes FS/OSS

Wim De Smet wdesmet at
Thu Jul 26 21:30:24 UTC 2001

This is getting way to personal, take it of the discussion list. This is
_not_ constructive and I ask you to stop polluting my inbox.


wdesmet at

Joerg Schilling said:
> >From: Bernhard Reiter <bernhard at>
> >> 1) Don't trust Press releases that are set up by enemies (FhG in this
> >e)
> >> I don't want to go into details, but from a legal point of view
> >> GMD is not jet FhG!
> >The webpages of GMD have different information:
> >
> > | Nun sind auch alle juristischen Schritte zur Integration
> > | der GMD in die Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft vollzogen.
> Did you ever listen to the radio station of an occupied country?
> >> Right! At the moment we call "GMB Informationstechnik e.V. & Co. KG."
> >> Nevertheless, we remain a non-profit organisation and we are not part
> >> Fraunhofer!
> >>=20
> >> The change to the new name has become valid with 20.7.2001 with a
> >ing
> >> in "Bonner Generalanzeiger" (Page 20). As I am replying to a mail from
> >> you send at 16.7.2001, you see, that your statements are wrong.
> >Okay, the Berlios is now (since 6 days) not part of Frauenhofer anymore
> >according to your information.
> >This seems to be a good step.
> I said that GMD is not yet Fraunhofer, you say that GMD is no more
> You seem to know more then I know!
> As I am the president of the works-council of GMD-Berlin and constantly
> during the last two years against this senseless forced fusion this is
> But hey! If you really know more than I do, why then didn't you help us to
> this fight against the FhG GMD fusion?
> >> >>> Nobody in the (German) community trusts BERLIOS, probably due to a
> >> >>> feelings.
> >>=20
> >> >At least all the folks I know and that are quite some.
> >>=20
> >> So I give you the advice to find better friends. People who make
> >ts
> >> like this are no help for the movement.
> >Thanks for downgrading all people that Werner=20
> >(Vice-President of the FSFE Chapter Germany, in the board of GUUG,=20
> >main architect of GnuPG) knows in Germany which are involved in Free
> >re.
> >As I am also one of these persons I can reassure you that
> >a statements like the one above can be perceived as "unfair accusations".
> Did I mention your name? Did Werner mention your name? I am sure that not!
> >There are several other reasons why is distrust of BerliOS
> >in the Free Software community in Germany.
> >We (the FSFE) did not create it.  We merely point it out to you.
> To avoid future confusion like in the paragraph above: Are you speaking
> as Vice President of FSFE or are you speaking as Bernhard Reiter?
> I don't like to confuse personal statements with official statements
> from organisations.... and I am sure that the existence of FSFE gives
> positive impulses to the free-software/open-source community in Europe!
> ... Does this mean that you personally have problems when people are
> fighting for free-software/open-source?
> ... or is it simply that some animals are more equal than others?
> I am a bit confused now.... We had a very positive talk at CeBIT this
> year and you told us that we should co-operate. You pointed out, that
> BerliOS gives a positive impulse to the free-software/open-source
> It seems that something happened during the last few months.
> As you told us that FSFE would support BerliOS why didn't you contact
> us meanwhile? If there really are problems, we already could have done
> something against these problems.
> >Free Software developers usually have a sixth sense for some
> >of the mistakes BerliOS is making.
> So it seems that you personally feel with your sixt sense that there are
> mistakes. Please tell us more about these misterious mistakes!
> Jörg
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