sweden January 2011

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Re: [Sweden] PDF forms
by Maelle Costa 26 Feb '11

26 Feb '11

Hi Rikard, Hi all ! [*update on the previous conversation* Rikard has notified us that Swedish authorities tend to use more and more PDF forms created in a way that PDF readers other than Adobe Acrobat Reader (hereafter AA Reader) can open it but display : "To view the full contents of this document, you need a later version of the PDF viewer. You can upgrade to the latest version of Adobe Reader from www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html For further support, go to www.adobe.com/support/products/acrreader.html" an example: http://polisen.se/Vastra_Gotaland/sv/Service/Blanketter/Tillstand/Vanliga-b… A developper from Evince helped us determine the source of the problem : - the PDF is specially crafted so you won't be able to see it unless you are using Adobe reader and a new version... - the institution seems to be using Adobe Live Cycling to create the PDFs. We think it a good idea to contact the institutions to make them aware that this is a problem... Rikard has declared himself ready to contact them, but we might need some help in preparation of the contact] Rikard already contacted the Swedish police who was quite little understanding : On 01/19/2011 01:26 PM, Rikard Fröberg wrote: > I actually contacted the Swedish Police on this matter and described the situation thoroughly to them, explaining each step and the implications of them offering applications in a form that requires particular software, proprietary no less, and got a confused reply where they explained: "Yes, we are aware. That's why we changed to PDF recently." Is there a wiki or so, on which I could create a sub page for this PDF > forms problem? I could start listing Swedish institutions offering this > crippled format and provide example links there. I.e. they didn't understand that the PDFs they create cause a problem similar to when they had *other* file formats before. Sigh. So, first, Rikard, we would need to know exactly what you explained to them, so that we know what arguments are not convincing for them. >From what I see so far, *We need to explain them* : - PDF is an Open Standard [1] - Open Standard are precisely here to make sure several programs from several developpers / companies can open then, i.e. to make sure to ensure *independence from vendor*, *maximal accessibility for the public* and *compatibility*. - In creating / editing PDFs that can only be open by AA Reader deprives the Standard from its advantages, but worse, it forces people into using one program, into buying it from one vendor (being locked with him), and the fact that it is free of charge is no parameter here. - They could improve their accessibility in creating forms that are not crafted, that can be open by any program designed to open the standard. - we can help them to figure out how to do that *we should not say* : - The way they create their form is wrong -> they would probably react not be very listening if we start telling them they are wrong, we should rather tell them they can be better. *What we need to search in preparation*: - Free Software PDF readers are not very performant with forms. They can usually open them, but not save the information entered, and not perform a check-up routine. We need to determine which software are good at *editing* PDFs that can be open by all readers. It would be better here to have Free Software to suggest, in case they aren't, I guess it would already be an improvement to have institutions publish forms that can be open by Free Software even if they are created by a proprietary one... - Rikard suggested there were possibilities to create forms with Open Office or libre Office. Nico here tested Open Office, it worked for what concerns the form functions, but we couldn't figure out how to design the layout we wanted for the PDF... Some research here would be good before recommending these options - other options would be good. - @Rikard : there is the possibility to create a wiki page on FSFE's wiki (wiki.fsfe.org). If you don't have an account there, either one of the Fellows in Sweden could help you create the list of institutions, or you can create a guest account [2]. *Do you have other ideas, comments on how we can procede here*? Thanks for your involvement here, Regards Maëlle [1] http://pdfreaders.org/os.en.html [2] https://wiki.fsfe.org/UserGuide#Guest_accounts -- Maëlle Costa Free Software Foundation Europe - intern im : maelle(a)jabber.fsfe.org

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[Sweden] Hej!
by Karlsson, Mikael (Infra Solutions SE) 12 Jan '11

12 Jan '11

Hej! Jag sitter och samordnar OpenSource på infrastruktursidan på Logica. Jag sköter om ett forum som handlar om OpenSource och jag brukar bjuda in externa personer som kan prata om ett område för att skapa ett mervärde för de medlemmar jag har i vår community. Jag undrar om FSF har ett intresse av att kunna prata ca: 30min om Free Software/OpenSource. På 30min hinner man inte med så mycket men man kan lite generellt hur det fungerar. I och med att vi sitter överallt i sverige så är mötesforumet via telefon/livemeeting Finns de ett intresse från er sida? //Mikael ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mikael Karlsson | Community Leader Open Source Box 92077, 541 02 Skövde | Sweden Besöksadress; Gustav Adolfs gata 49 T: +46 500 49 34 89 | M: +46 702 503 579 mikael.karlsson(a)logica.com<mailto:mikael.karlsson@logica.com> | www.logica.com<http://www.logica.com/> Please help Logica to respect the environment by not printing this email / Pour contribuer comme Logica au respect de l'environnement, merci de ne pas imprimer ce mail / Bitte drucken Sie diese Nachricht nicht aus und helfen Sie so Logica dabei, die Umwelt zu schützen. / Por favor ajude a Logica a respeitar o ambiente nao imprimindo este correio electronico. This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you.

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[Sweden] [FSFE PR][SV] FSFE Newsletter - January 2011
by press＠fsfeurope.org 05 Jan '11

05 Jan '11

(Hjälp oss att nå ut till människor i deras modersmål. Gå med i vårt svenska översättningsteam: http://fsfe.org/contribute/translators/.) = FSFE Newsletter - January 2011 = [Permanent URL: http://fsfe.org/news/nl/nl-201101.sv.html ] == Robots, Football, and Education == Their mission is to bring Free Software into schools and universities. Their new task is to gather information about [1]their stakeholders, and [2]create targeted leaflets. And I am sure the favourite colour of the coordinators [3]Thomas Jensch and [4]Guido Arnold is [5]Fellowship green. That's [6]our education team. Can robots help with that? We think they can. Our education team had [7]a first meeting to get trained in giving programming workshops using freedroidz robots. We want to teach pupils how to program, show them that it's good to share and co-operate, and explain Free Software to their teachers, parents, and politicians. And what about football? Regular readers might remember that Guido Arnold is running a parallel tournament to the football championship in Europe 2012 where the discipline is Free Software usage in government. So every time there is a football match, Guido starts a Free Software match between them, while a huge part is of course the government's education policy. Read [8]Guido's blog to find out why Russia is a hot candidate for the European champion, but why we need more information on Eastern European countries. == Public institutions - hares or snails? == Already, 203 public institutions have removed advertisements for proprietary PDF readers from their websites. Particularly outstanding were the responses from Croatia, Russia and Slovenia. In Croatia all except one reported institution deleted the advertisement. Half of those contacted in Russia and Slovenia fulfilled FSFE's request. Amongst the public institutions are ministries, parliaments, law enforcement agencies, local governments, and other administrations. With [9]our PDFreaders campaign we will continue to follow-up with the [10]reported institutions and you can still encourage friends [11]to sign the corresponding petition. == Something completely different == - You think your old C64 was slow? Working on the United Nations level will change your mind. Karsten Gerloff wrote an article about FSFE's UN work: [12]"WIPO CDIP/6: Moving the glacier". - Open Standards in Europe: The European Commission published the new version of the European Interoperability Framework (EIF). We at FSFE have been [13]working on this document for a long time. Read [14]our press release and an [15]article by Karsten assessing the new EIF. - Current developments at Nokia, the transformative power of Free Software, and the potential dangers posed by the use of Free Software by large organisations. Those are the topics of the [16]current Fellowship interview with Alexander Kahl, Fedora packager, Lisp, JavaScript and Perl programmer, and active FSFE volunteer. - While Torsten Grote [17]gave a radio interview (German) about risks of cloud computing and chances of distributed Free Software, Björn Schiessle [18]writes about how he wants to install distributed software at home. == Get active: Help with Euro 2012 championship == Help us gathering information about government's Free Software usage. This information helps us to evaluate the current situation and of course it will decide who will be the European Free Software champion in 2012. [19]Add the information on our website before March 25 and it will influence the next matches, add information continuously and it will help Free Software activists all over the world. Regards, Matthias Kirschner - FSFE 1. http://wiki.fsfe.org/Education#stakeholders 2. http://fsfe.org/about/printable/printable.sv.html 3. http://blogs.fsfe.org/riepernet/ 4. http://blogs.fsfe.org/guido 5. http://fellowship.fsfe.org/ 6. http://fsfe.org/projects/education/education.sv.html 7. http://blogs.fsfe.org/guido/2010/12/freedroidz-workshop-with-tarent/ 8. http://blogs.fsfe.org/guido/category/euro2012/ 9. http://fsfe.org/campaigns/pdfreaders/pdfreaders.sv.html 10. http://fsfe.org/campaigns/pdfreaders/buglist.sv.html 11. http://fsfe.org/campaigns/pdfreaders/petition.sv.html 12. http://blogs.fsfe.org/gerloff/?p=434 13. http://fsfe.org/projects/os/eifv2.sv.html 14. http://fsfe.org/news/2010/news-20101216-01.sv.html 15. http://blogs.fsfe.org/gerloff/2010/12/17/assessing-the-new-european-interop… 16. http://blogs.fsfe.org/fellowship-interviews/?p=198 17. http://blogs.fsfe.org/mk/?p=698 18. http://blog.schiessle.org/2010/12/19/a-new-toy-arrived/ 19. http://wiki.fsfe.org/Free_Software_usage_in_public_administration -- Free Software Foundation Europe <http://www.fsfe.org> FSFE News <http://fsfe.org/news/news.sv.rss> Upcoming FSFE Events <http://fsfe.org/events/events.sv.rss> Fellowship Blog Aggregation <http://planet.fsfe.org.sv.rss20.xml> Free Software Discussions <http://fsfe.org/contact/community.sv.html> _______________________________________________ Press-release-sv mailing list Press-release-sv(a)fsfeurope.org https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/press-release-sv

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[Sweden] FSCONS 2011 - looking for dates
by Henrik Sandklef 04 Jan '11

04 Jan '11

Hi We are trying to find dates for the coming FSCONS (2011). We suggest to continue with dates around late October and early November. This leads us to the dates below. Can you check if you have any country specific events or if we have missed any important conference (or similar). Send your comments to info(a)fscons.org Suggested dates ============================================ October 28-30 November 4-6 (Not optimal for parents* in GOT) November 11-13 (11-11-11 is cool date) Other events "nearby" Gothenburg 2011 ============================================ March X Open Source conference (dk) March 22-23 Go open (no) Aug 6-12 Desktop summit (de) Aug 20-21 FrOSCon (de) Sept 28-30 Mindtrek (fi) Oct(?) ? Embedded Linux Conference (x) *) During this period we have "autumn vacation" in Gothenburg. Parents may be on travel with heir kids.

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