sweden August 2005

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[Sweden] [Fwd: Lectures for IT students]
by Henrik Sandklef 29 Aug '05

29 Aug '05

Hi .... it seems as if our ways cross Truve (from tvinnovation) twice this autumn. This is very good since he seems to be regarded (by goverment) as some kind of IT wizard/oracle. I will visit his talk 7/9 and set up a meeting afterwards. Anyone care to join (if he agrees to a meeting of course).

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[Sweden] barnraiser funding status
by Henrik Sandklef 28 Aug '05

28 Aug '05

Hi Tom Is it offical that you have received fundings? /h

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[Sweden] Angående er kurs i "Open Source"
by Henrik Sandklef 28 Aug '05

28 Aug '05

Hejsan Jag fick en länk till era hemsidor och kursen om "OSS" [1]. Efter att ha läst igenom sidorna skickar jag nu detta brev som jag hoppas skall starta en diskussion om denna kurs samt hur vi (FSF EUrope) skulle kunna bidra. Hör gärna av er! Mvh Henrik Sandklef / 0708-658406 (jag jobbar som konsult samt ideellt för FSF Europe[2] och inom GNU[3]) [1] http://www.n3p.se/fakta.php [2] http://www.fsfeurope.org [3] http://www.gnu.org

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[Sweden] N3P
by Tom Calthrop 28 Aug '05

28 Aug '05

Hi All, Has anyone herd of or have any opinion on N3P (http://www.n3p.se/en.php) new education in open source?...... snip from their web site ----- N3P offers a brand new, contrasting and intrepid two-year college level training in how to become a successful *Project Entrepreneur in Open Source*. Our students will learn not only the technical possibilities, but also how to exploit new business opportunities, manage profitable ideas, and create flourishing businesses. Starting August 15 this year, N3P will admit *40 students* – 20 at our classrooms in Stockholm City and 20 through a system of advanced distance learning. There will be one new class each year 2005-2008, with the possibility to expand the concept into other regions and markets. ---- EO snip -- Tom Calthrop Founder, Barnraiser. dedicated to giving people the tools they need to share knowledge and advance society through social software. http://www.barnraiser.org/ Phone (mobile): +46(0) 733 83 84 14 Personal site and blog - http://www.smudge.com/

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Re: [Sweden] hammarkullen.nu / action for tom and hesa and oberg
by Henrik Sandklef 27 Aug '05

27 Aug '05

Hi everyone! IMPORTANT -------------------------------------------------------- | AT THE END OF THIS EMAIL YOU'LL FIND A REALLY IMPORTANT | ISSUE REGARDING GPL AND FORGE. IT IS VITAL THAT KARL, | MATHIAS AND JONAS READ THIS (AS WELL AS TOM!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- First of all, Tom, you are doing a magnificent job[1]. It is rare that you see projects with such potential as aroundme. With your contacts and force things are looking far better for free software in swden. And (perhaps) more importantly the youth of sweden will have a good forum to use. [1] This usually said before make nasty comments. I have no such comments :) To ensure we use the same vocabulary when talking about your software. What do you prefer to speak about: aroundme (the software platform) or forge (the project) or barnraiser (the organisation). On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 11:46 +0200, tom calthrop wrote: > Hi Henrik, > > Oh I can do better than that:) I knew that ;) > Here is the Swedish youth project (forge project) proposal in Swedish. > > http://www.forge.se/index.php?page=EngForgeProjExecSummary > > Have a quick read through that and let me know if that is good enough to > send to her. If so, send it and add a note explaining that we are funded > and that Hammarkullen youth will have access to it as with all other > Swedish youth. See comments below. > The full project plan (sadly only in English) is at. > > http://www.forge.se/index.php?page=EngForgeProjPlan Just saw it. In this doc there is a chapter called "introducing aroundme" and an appendix called "Introducing Aroundme". I will read this document in more detail (will print it out on paper first!). More comments will come soon. > The first few pages gives the project summary and there is a paragraph > in their called "Free software explained". > If you would like to be nasty you could also point out to her that she > excludes disabled people from viewing her site, something any folkets > Hus is not allowed to do under the terms of their funding;) Hmmm... can you prove that they are excluding them I'll gladly put it at the end of the email (under a "BTW"). > Let me know if you have enough with the Swedish texts - If not I'll put > something more together for you. See below. Comments: ---------- * I have some (minor!) comments on the spelling for forge and aroundme. How do you want me to send this over to you? Or perhaps ypu want me doing it through CVS directly? * You mention in the Forge Project Summary a 'few' organisations you do cooperate with. Wow! Will all of these use aroundme or have they just expressed interest? If so, I think we should use this to promote aroundme/forge? * I'd really like to see a few comments about aroundme being free software and a (short!!!) explanation of what fs is. What do you think? * In "Forge Project Summary" I miss information what the user can do with the software. This is explained in "Build your community". Can you add the text from there to the summary doc? I think this is really implortant have visible at the summary page, since it is (imho) this that will differ from other platforms. * If I was to try to find translators for yours docs which will be most important? I'd say "Build your community" and "About the project". * In the document "Software" as found on the barnraiser site you have some screenshots. All of them using IE. I understand you want user to see that aroundme (and beacon) works with Windows/IE, but I'd like to see a screenie of aroundme in action under GNU/Linux. What do you think?< * Karl, Mathias and I met up with Dr Nagarjuna i Lund (Aug 13). He may be good person to speak with if you are interested in setting up ariundme in Inidia. Major GPL issue with arooundme: -------------------------------- * In "About the project" you are adding restrictions to the software. Regardless of wether they are useful or perhaps even necessary I think they are incompatible with the GPL since they restrict the user's right to use the software as he wants. I think one can manage to keep your restrictions and be compatible with GPL by moving the restrictions to a "Support Contract". If adding commercials they break the "Support Contract" but not GPL. Support Contract may not be the best way to do this (or word for it). It shall be seen as a way of getting around GPL to make the best possible forum for youth. > Tom > > > > > > > > > Henrik Sandklef wrote: > > >Hejsan / hi > > > > > > I heard (swedish radio P4) that Floketshus (Hammarkullen) are setting > >up a site for the young persons in Hammarkullen (a suburb with lots of > >immigrants and lots of social problems :(). > > > > I phone up Landstinget, Lärjedalen. They pointed me to Folkets Hus > >where I finally found a nice girl, Lina Dahlenm who is in charge of the > >project. They have to use the same platofrm as the other communities > >within Folkets Hus are using (guess which!). I talked briefly about the > >implications of such a choice. She seemed a bit surprised that I could > >not reach the page (have to use IE) and was even more surprised to hear > >that it is easy to exclude certain users on the server side, e.g user > >with non-IE browsers. > > > > I noticed she was a bit under pressure (tight schdeule) so I decided to > >end the conversation while she weasn't (yet) tired of my voice. We > >decided that I should send her my contact information for the future. I > >said that I will send her some (short!) information about free software > >as well as aroundme (and barnraiser). > > > > I propose we do the following, > > > > Tom: > > ==== > > Propose some good short paper, which explains the basics of around me > >and explains why aroundme is better than the rest (the freedom offered, > >education....) > > > >All of us: > > ========= > > Write short (in swedish) info about fs. Easy to read. > > > > > > > >/hesa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Sweden mailing list > >Sweden(a)fsfeurope.org > >https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/sweden > > > > > > > >

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[Sweden] Time planning
by Jonas Oberg 25 Aug '05

25 Aug '05

Okay, fun time is over, I'll be returning home on sunday the 28th. Here's what I'm giving up: http://www.informatik.gu.se/~jonas/landet.jpg http://www.informatik.gu.se/~jonas/ismunden.jpg :-) I will also be gone the 31th of august to the 4th of september. From the 5th, I'll be available regularly. -- Jonas Öberg Free Software Foundation Europe Phone. +46-31-7804105 (extension 4001)

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Re: [Sweden] FSF Europe and CC will travel to Lund at 12:th August
by Henrik Sandklef 25 Aug '05

25 Aug '05

Hi swedish team ... and niklas and tere Time to start up planning of our meeting. We (sw team) will propose a date for the meeting. .... just wanted you to have a "ping" from us so you know we haven't forgot about it, on the contrary we look forward to a meeting. /h On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 11:47 +0300, Tere.Vaden(a)uta.fi wrote: > Yep, Stockholm would be ok, but Göteborg is not any more difficult. I > have a bunch of friends there anyhow. So let's just fix a time; now > that it is not connected to Dr Nagarjuna's visit, we can be more free > about it. Weeks 34 and 41 are impossible for me, otherwise the calender > is still nicely white. > > Greetings from Tampere (Tammerfors), > > Tere > > Quoting Henrik Sandklef <hesa(a)sandklef.com>: > > > We all live in Gothenburg. And yuo? > > > > I don't think any of us have any plans to travel to Finland or Stockhom. > > But I will talk to Mathias and Karl and come up with some suggestions. > > > > We have a need to travel to Stockholm to meet up with several people up > > there. Perhaps we could arrange a meeting there (Stockholm)? > > > > /h > > > > > > > > > > On tis, 2005-08-09 at 16:18 +0300, Tere.Vaden(a)uta.fi wrote: > >> Quoting Henrik Sandklef <hesa(a)sandklef.com>: > >> > >> > On mån, 2005-08-01 at 14:02 +0300, Tere Vaden wrote: > >> >> Dear all, > >> >> > >> >> Sorry for not replying sooner – been on vacation. > >> >> > >> >> I look forward to meeting the Swedish FSF team and Dr. Nagarjuna > >> very much. > >> >> > >> >> However, I do have a small clash of schedules on Saturday the 13th. > >> >> Would it be possible for Henrik & others to meet on the 12th instead? > >> > > >> > Dr Nagarjuna had problems with a meeting at 12th so I think that we will > >> > have to stick to August 13. > >> > > >> >> (or the 11th, come to that?) I could come with Niklas to some other > >> >> place in Sweden (Stockholm, Göteborg) on the 11th or 12th as well, and > >> >> meet with Dr Nagarjuna separately. > >> > > >> > I will talk with Mathias and Karl about this. I will come back to you > >> > (Niklas and Tere) seperately to lower the ampunt of emails to Dr > >> > Nagarjuna. > >> > > >> >> If that does not work, I'll try to clear the clash. In any case it is > >> >> most important to meet. :) > >> > > >> > Perhaps we can set up a meeting on a completely different date for the > >> > Fins and swedes? > >> > >> This might be the best option. Where are you, in Sweden? > >> > >> > > >> > regards, hesa > >> > > >> > >> T:T > >> > >> > >> >> Best, > >> >> > >> >> Tere > >> >> > >> >> Henrik Sandklef wrote: > >> >> > Dear Dr. Nagarjuna, Niklas and Tere > >> >> > > >> >> > We (the swedes) will come down to Lund at August 13th instead. > >> >> > > >> >> > /h > >> >> > On Fri, 2005-07-01 at 12:58 +0200, Henrik Sandklef wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >>Dear Dr. Nagarjuna, Niklas and Tere > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On the 12:th of August we will travelling to Lund to meet you. To > >> >> >>ensure that we have time enought to speak with each other I suggest we > >> >> >>book meetings. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Can you, please, look to see if there is time for such a meeting and > >> >> >>perhaps even suggest a time for such a meeting. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Best regards, hesa > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> The following persons will travel to Lund: > >> >> >> Karl Jonsson (FSF Europe swedish team / Creative Commons) > >> >> >> Mathias Klang (FSF Europe swedish team / Creative Commons) > >> >> >> Henrik Sandklef (FSF Europe) > >> >> >> > >> >> >>_______________________________________________ > >> >> >>Sweden mailing list > >> >> >>Sweden(a)fsfeurope.org > >> >> >>https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/sweden > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >

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[Sweden] Short travel notice / Thursday-Friday
by Henrik Sandklef 25 Aug '05

25 Aug '05

Hi all I'll be visiting my father who is in hospital (surgery in the spine) in Strängnäs. I was hoping to meet up with Tom while being so near Stockholm but I figure I better do one thing good instead of two things poorly. If you want to reach me, try my mobile phone: 0708-658406 ... i'll be back friday evening. /h During the travel I'll be: - giving a call to Johan Linander (Centerpartiet) - trying to finish the "Seminarium kring öppet innehåll 15 september" - finish answering a question which Mathias asked me yesterday ....

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[Sweden] [Fwd: [Fsfe-se] Svenska myndigheter optimerar sina sidor för MSIE 5.5]
by Henrik Sandklef 24 Aug '05

24 Aug '05

We are having a lot of things we need to discuss. This is one of them. This relates to swedish radio publishing broadcasts in wma(??) and realaudio format. /h

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[Sweden] [Fwd: Seminarium kring öppet innehåll 15 september]
by Henrik Sandklef 24 Aug '05

24 Aug '05

FYI Jonas and I will handle the contact with them (since we were asked) but feel free to comment and propose agenda or speaker. More info soon... /h

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