Matthias Kirschner schrieb:

Hi Henner,

• HennR hennr@fsfe.org [2009-01-20 16:57:55 +0100]:

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• Alphabetised the readers

• Added Okular to win/mac

  • Do you agree with my links (link to installer for win, link to

download page for mac)

Could you change the order in the way that Okular is at the bottom please? If fear that to many people will click on it, even it is in brackets.

I do not think that is good. I think we should go for alphabetical order so nobody can say we do any emphasis with the order.

Hmm, but I am unhappy with the current order...the brackets are unclear.

Any opinions about that?

Matthias Kirschner schrieb:

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• Not changed the page title
  • The page title is fetched dynamically according to language. If I

change it to "pdfreaders.org - Get a Free Software PDF reader!" it will be in English regardless of language selection. Do we want this?

No. But we want that page title in for each language in its own language if possible.

Yes, if that's possible that would be the best solution!

HennR

Am Dienstag, 20. Januar 2009 18:26:11 schrieb Stian Rødven Eide:

I've now applied the latest changes:

• Added the four freedoms

It makes the sentence kind of difficult to read....

• Changed "Contact" to "About"
• Moved links below table to "About"
• Changed Okular Windows link
• Added note about GNUpdf to "About"
• Asked team@ about the licence
• Added the WTFPL anyway for now

I don't think that an official campaign targeting major organisiations and governmental institutions should refer to the "Do What The Fuck You Want To Public License".

What about just writing: All images displayed maybe used, modified and/or redistributed for any kind of purpose without any kind of restrictions.

• Added Yap to the readers list (Free OS's and Win, is that correct?)
• Changed <fn> to <div>
• Fixed language dependant titles (it turned out to be a simple matter

of inventing a new template header tag)

The new pages are available here: http://pdfreaders.org/index-new.html http://pdfreaders.org/graphics-new.html http://pdfreaders.org/about-new.html

One solution for the win/mac Okular issue would be to introduce a second footnote. I don't think it's an optimal solution however, and similar instructions would probably be necessary for Yap as well since it requires GNUstep. Perhaps we could give both the same second footnote saying that "additional software may be required to use this program".

Sounds good. Maybe we could also make the font "lighter" instead of the parantheses.

In Solidarity Hannes

* HennR hennr@fsfe.org [2009-01-21 08:10:52 +0100]:

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One solution for the win/mac Okular issue would be to introduce a second footnote. I don't think it's an optimal solution however, and similar instructions would probably be necessary for Yap as well since it requires GNUstep. Perhaps we could give both the same second footnote saying that "additional software may be required to use this program".

Sounds good. Maybe we could also make the font "lighter" instead of the parantheses.

Nice idea!

I also like that.

Best wishes, Matthias

Hi Hannes,

* Hannes Hauswedell hannes@fsfe.org [2009-01-21 00:45:59 +0100]:

I don't think that an official campaign targeting major organisiations and governmental institutions should refer to the "Do What The Fuck You Want To Public License".

What about just writing: All images displayed maybe used, modified and/or redistributed for any kind of purpose without any kind of restrictions.

I agree with that!

Best wishes, Matthias

Latest changes applied:

* Changed the front page sentence to All of them are Free Software, respecting your basic four freedoms to use, study share and improve it. This gives you control over your computer and helps protect your privacy. * Added second footnote * Made footnoted links lighter * Changed the graphic page sentence to All buttons displayed on this page may be used, modified and/or redistributed for any kind of purpose without any kind of restrictions or requirements.

http://pdfreaders.org/index-new.html http://pdfreaders.org/graphics-new.html http://pdfreaders.org/about-new.html

Do we have concensus on all changes?

Is there anything else we should do before sending the files for translation?

I would kind of like to make a small "p"-button that can work as a replacement for the Adobe "A" as well.

all the best, /Stian

On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 17:00 +0100, Matthias Kirschner wrote:

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I would kind of like to make a small "p"-button that can work as a replacement for the Adobe "A" as well.

Sounds good. Btw. http://kaishinkan.de/ is using the "f" :)

I suppose it was "f" I meant as well ;-)

/Stian

Hi Stian,

* Stian Rødven Eide stian@fsfeurope.org [2009-01-23 01:21:31 +0100]:

Some last changes:

• Changed first paragraph on the "About" page
• Added small icons to the "Graphics" page

To avoid breaking mailto links I needed to upgrade webgen to 0.5.x. This had some unforeseen consequences such as many of the old webgen tags not working any more.

I believe I have fixed the essentials now. Some error messages about mandatory parameters not being present show up when rendering the pages, but at least the output looks good. According to the webgen manual there aren't any mandatory parameters for these tags either so I think we can safely ignore them.

The most important stuff is in every page:

title: Homepage routed_title: homepage in_menu: true sort_info: 10

And for the content part: <webgen:block name="content" />

And for the config you should use the attached config which we also use for the new Fellowship page.

One other consequence was that the menu code ended up differently, so I had to change the css file. This means that I can't upload the direct output files to the same server without breaking or changing either links or the css file. You will therefore find the latest revision at http://pdfreaders.julipan.org/ instead. The good side of this is that the menu is effectively clickable for navigation.

Ok, good.

If that was all, and you don't have reservations against ignoring the webgen errors, I will send the source pages to translation tomorrow Friday.

Check if in the files the "header" with in_menu, sort_info etc. is correct. Than the European level should approve it (make a roundup issue and point to the new website and ask for approval).

Best wishes, Matthias

One more thing concerning the page: Shouldn't the pdfreaders-logo in the frame link to the index? That is standard-behaviour on most sites out there... I already clicked it twice ;)

Regards Hannes

Am Freitag, 23. Januar 2009 01:21:31 schrieb Stian Rødven Eide:

Some last changes:

• Changed first paragraph on the "About" page
• Added small icons to the "Graphics" page

To avoid breaking mailto links I needed to upgrade webgen to 0.5.x. This had some unforeseen consequences such as many of the old webgen tags not working any more.

I believe I have fixed the essentials now. Some error messages about mandatory parameters not being present show up when rendering the pages, but at least the output looks good. According to the webgen manual there aren't any mandatory parameters for these tags either so I think we can safely ignore them.

One other consequence was that the menu code ended up differently, so I had to change the css file. This means that I can't upload the direct output files to the same server without breaking or changing either links or the css file. You will therefore find the latest revision at http://pdfreaders.julipan.org/ instead. The good side of this is that the menu is effectively clickable for navigation.

If that was all, and you don't have reservations against ignoring the webgen errors, I will send the source pages to translation tomorrow Friday.

all the best, /Stian

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On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 14:52 +0100, Matthias Kirschner wrote:

• Hannes Hauswedell hannes@fsfe.org [2009-01-23 14:40:52 +0100]:

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One more thing concerning the page: Shouldn't the pdfreaders-logo in the frame link to the index? That is standard-behaviour on most sites out there... I already clicked it twice ;)

Hannes, you're right.

Stian, is that possible that it goes to the same language? If not we can make the link to the standard English one, and figure that problem out later (we will need that feature for the new Fellowship site, too).

We can probably use the link feature I mentioned in jabber, though adapted for use with graphics. I'll have to check out how that would be done though.

{link: {path: index.html, attr: {:[some way of saying it should be linked to a graphic]}}}

all the best, /Stian