Please add Yap to your list of PDF readers.
Yap is a GNUstep PostScript/PDF previewer and front end to the a2ps text formatting tool. http://www.gnustep.it/marko/GPSText/index.html
Please would you release the PDF reader graphics and buttons under free software licences? In particular, a high-resolution copy of the f and the green square would be very useful.
Thanks so much for doing this. I'll link it from future sites.
Thanks,
Hi MJ Ray,
* MJ Ray mjr@phonecoop.coop [2008-12-12 15:47:20 +0000]:
Please add Yap to your list of PDF readers.
Yap is a GNUstep PostScript/PDF previewer and front end to the a2ps text formatting tool. http://www.gnustep.it/marko/GPSText/index.html
Oh thanks, haven't heard about that one.
I was not able to use it after a short try. Do I have to use GNUstep? (I tried to open a pdf with yap filename.pdf.) Do you have a guess what I am doing wrong?
Please would you release the PDF reader graphics and buttons under free software licences? In particular, a high-resolution copy of the f and the green square would be very useful.
We have the SVGs at http://wiki.fsfe.org/Free-PDF-Readers-Campaign/Logo. After the feedback round we will include a link to the source from http://www.pdfreaders.org/graphics.html.
Which license do you suggest for the buttons?
Thanks so much for doing this. I'll link it from future sites.
Can you inform us when you link to pdfreaders.org? Or when you have convienced government bodies, universities, etc. to link to us?
Thanks for the feedback, Matthias
Hi. I'm getting "your message has been held for moderation" replies when emailing feedback@pdfreaders.org - I suggest switching them off, to avoid spam blowback.
Matthias Kirschner mk@fsfe.org wrote:
Oh thanks, haven't heard about that one.
I was not able to use it after a short try. Do I have to use GNUstep? (I tried to open a pdf with yap filename.pdf.) Do you have a guess what I am doing wrong?
Well, you need GNUstep libraries installed. The easiest way to use it is to double-click a PDF file in GWorkspace, or start Yap and drag and drop a PDF onto its appicon. I think "openapp Yap -GSFile filename.pdf" will start it from the shell. It does work well: it's essentially loading anti-aliased images generated by Ghostscript into a simple GNUstep browser window. Simple and fairly fast.
Another viewer for Microsoft Windows is GSView http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/gsview/index.htm but I'm told Sumatra PDF is usually better.
We have the SVGs at http://wiki.fsfe.org/Free-PDF-Readers-Campaign/Logo. After the feedback round we will include a link to the source from http://www.pdfreaders.org/graphics.html.
That's great, but I'm not sure whether I have a working SVG editor at present and I suspect other webmasters periodically break theirs too, so high-res PNG components will help popularity too. At least graphics to replace http://www.publications.doh.gov.uk/cno/pdf.gif (the "PDF and A" logo) and http://iswc2006.semanticweb.org/items/pdf.jpg (the "PDF A page") would be very helpful in getting a quick response from webmasters.
Which license do you suggest for the buttons?
We're trying to overthrow a very dominant proprietary provider, so I'd suggest as liberal and simple as possible - maybe WTFPL or Expat-like.
Thanks so much for doing this. I'll link it from future sites.
Can you inform us when you link to pdfreaders.org? Or when you have convienced government bodies, universities, etc. to link to us?
I'll try to remember, but you may find it more reliable to watch your referrer logs. Sometimes even if I have an effect, people don't tell me and the first I know is seeing inbound links.
Thanks,
Hi MJ Ray,
* MJ Ray mjr@phonecoop.coop [2008-12-13 16:28:06 +0000]:
Hi. I'm getting "your message has been held for moderation" replies when emailing feedback@pdfreaders.org - I suggest switching them off, to avoid spam blowback.
Done, thanks.
Matthias Kirschner mk@fsfe.org wrote:
Oh thanks, haven't heard about that one.
I was not able to use it after a short try. Do I have to use GNUstep? (I tried to open a pdf with yap filename.pdf.) Do you have a guess what I am doing wrong?
Well, you need GNUstep libraries installed. The easiest way to use it is to double-click a PDF file in GWorkspace, or start Yap and drag and drop a PDF onto its appicon. I think "openapp Yap -GSFile filename.pdf" will start it from the shell. It does work well: it's essentially loading anti-aliased images generated by Ghostscript into a simple GNUstep browser window. Simple and fairly fast.
Ok, Stian / Henner we should add Yap than.
Another viewer for Microsoft Windows is GSView http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/gsview/index.htm but I'm told Sumatra PDF is usually better.
IIRC it was once under the non-free "Aladdin Free Public License". But I heard this has changed. Henner wants to check this. I don't yet know if we should list software which we ourself are not able to install...
We have the SVGs at http://wiki.fsfe.org/Free-PDF-Readers-Campaign/Logo. After the feedback round we will include a link to the source from http://www.pdfreaders.org/graphics.html.
That's great, but I'm not sure whether I have a working SVG editor at present and I suspect other webmasters periodically break theirs too, so high-res PNG components will help popularity too. At least graphics to replace http://www.publications.doh.gov.uk/cno/pdf.gif (the "PDF and A" logo) and http://iswc2006.semanticweb.org/items/pdf.jpg (the "PDF A page") would be very helpful in getting a quick response from webmasters.
Would it be ok, to have them in the resolutions we use for our sponsoring buttons? http://www.fsfeurope.org/about/graphics/sponsoring/sponsoring.en.html? If not, can you please provide in which resolutions it should be available?
Which license do you suggest for the buttons?
We're trying to overthrow a very dominant proprietary provider, so I'd suggest as liberal and simple as possible - maybe WTFPL or Expat-like.
So would this be ok?
Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation Europe
Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim or modified copies of this license document, and changing it is allowed as long as the name is changed.
Than we will talk with the designer and license the graphics under that license.
Can you inform us when you link to pdfreaders.org? Or when you have convienced government bodies, universities, etc. to link to us?
I'll try to remember, but you may find it more reliable to watch your referrer logs. Sometimes even if I have an effect, people don't tell me and the first I know is seeing inbound links.
Ok, we will do so.
Best wishes, Matthias
Matthias Kirschner schrieb:
Matthias Kirschner mk@fsfe.org wrote:
Oh thanks, haven't heard about that one.
I was not able to use it after a short try. Do I have to use GNUstep? (I tried to open a pdf with yap filename.pdf.) Do you have a guess what I am doing wrong?
Well, you need GNUstep libraries installed. The easiest way to use it is to double-click a PDF file in GWorkspace, or start Yap and drag and drop a PDF onto its appicon. I think "openapp Yap -GSFile filename.pdf" will start it from the shell. It does work well: it's essentially loading anti-aliased images generated by Ghostscript into a simple GNUstep browser window. Simple and fairly fast.
Ok, Stian / Henner we should add Yap than.
Hmm, I can't even find yap.
You use Debian testing, Matthias?
I use Debian unstable, could you give me the name of the package please?
Another viewer for Microsoft Windows is GSView http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/gsview/index.htm but I'm told Sumatra PDF is usually better.
IIRC it was once under the non-free "Aladdin Free Public License". But I heard this has changed. Henner wants to check this. I don't yet know if we should list software which we ourself are not able to install...
As I also wrote Matthias GSView (the frontend for ghostview) is still licensed under the Aladdin licence.
Greetings
HennR
HennR discodestroyer@gmx.net wrote:
Hmm, I can't even find yap.
You use Debian testing, Matthias?
I use Debian unstable, could you give me the name of the package please?
It has not been packaged for Debian yet. I use gobolinux on my GNUstep system, sorry. It was simpler than trying to make GNUstep fit the FHS when I switched to GNUstep a few years ago.
Regards,
* Matthias Kirschner mk@fsfe.org [2008-12-13 18:27:33 +0100]:
IIRC it was once under the non-free "Aladdin Free Public License". But I heard this has changed. Henner wants to check this. I don't yet know if we should list software which we ourself are not able to install...
Henner just installed it and the license of GSView is Aladdin. So we will not list it.
Best wishes, Matthias
Matthias Kirschner mk@fsfe.org wrote:
Henner just installed it and the license of GSView is Aladdin. So we will not list it.
I'll point this out to the person who told me it was now GNU GPL too. I'll only reply again if they show me a version under that licence.
Matthias Kirschner mk@fsfe.org wrote:
That's great, but I'm not sure whether I have a working SVG editor at present and I suspect other webmasters periodically break theirs too, so high-res PNG components will help popularity too. At least graphics to replace http://www.publications.doh.gov.uk/cno/pdf.gif (the "PDF and A" logo) and http://iswc2006.semanticweb.org/items/pdf.jpg (the "PDF A page") would be very helpful in getting a quick response from webmasters.
Would it be ok, to have them in the resolutions we use for our sponsoring buttons? http://www.fsfeurope.org/about/graphics/sponsoring/sponsoring.en.html?
That would be great.
Which license do you suggest for the buttons?
We're trying to overthrow a very dominant proprietary provider, so I'd suggest as liberal and simple as possible - maybe WTFPL or Expat-like.
So would this be ok?
Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation Europe Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim or modified copies of this license document, and changing it is allowed as long as the name is changed.
"of this license document"??? First of all, "of these works" would seem to make more sense for buttons/icons/graphics; secondly, the noun licence is spelt with a c in English English (but the verb has an s still). I would like Europeans to support England more than the USA.
Thanks,