Dear Fellows,
As i took a new job last summer, i haven't been that active for the FSFE in the Netherlands. The job is heavier as expected. I don't see a improvement in free / spare time. For now i resign as coordinator for the Dutch Fellows and ask you to select a new coordinator among you. I discussed this with Rainer. Rainer would like to see you at the boot at T-Dose to discuss this.
I'm grateful for the things we done.
regards, and keep on the good work! Mark Lamers //ML
On 10/11/12 02:20, Mark Lamers wrote:
Dear Fellows,
As i took a new job last summer, i haven't been that active for the FSFE in the Netherlands. The job is heavier as expected. I don't see a improvement in free / spare time. For now i resign as coordinator for the Dutch Fellows and ask you to select a new coordinator among you. I discussed this with Rainer. Rainer would like to see you at the boot at T-Dose to discuss this.
I'm grateful for the things we done.
regards, and keep on the good work! Mark Lamers //ML
Congrats with your new job and thanks for all the great work you did!
Cheers, Jelle
Dear Mark,
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 02:20:16AM +0200, Mark Lamers wrote:
As i took a new job last summer, i haven't been that active for the FSFE in the Netherlands. The job is heavier as expected. I don't see a improvement in free / spare time. For now i resign as coordinator for the Dutch Fellows and ask you to select a new coordinator among you. I discussed this with Rainer. Rainer would like to see you at the boot at T-Dose to discuss this.
I'm grateful for the things we done.
thank you very much for all the things you've done so far! If you have spare capacity again at some point in the future, I would be very happy to have you back :)
Until then, I hope you can stay at least somewhat involved in the Dutch Fellowship group. Please keep in touch.
All the best, Karsten
Mark,
Mark Lamers schreef op 11-10-2012 02:20:
Dear Fellows,
As i took a new job last summer, i haven't been that active for the FSFE in the Netherlands. The job is heavier as expected. I don't see a improvement in free / spare time. For now i resign as coordinator for the Dutch Fellows and ask you to select a new coordinator among you. I discussed this with Rainer. Rainer would like to see you at the boot at T-Dose to discuss this.
I'm grateful for the things we done.
regards, and keep on the good work!
Congratulations on the new job! Hopefully you enjoy the new place. You should have bargained for some paid time spending on FSFE though. ;) Just kidding, we all know how it is, too bad you have to go. Thanks for the work you did in your time as coordinator for the Dutch Fellows.
I'll be at T-Dose and like to see what we can accomplish. Hopefully we get a new coordinator soon!
Kind regards,
On Oct 19, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Rutger van Sleen (NLLGG) wrote:
I'll be at T-Dose and like to see what we can accomplish. Hopefully we get a new coordinator soon!
Just wondering, does this also mean that you're signing up for the task? No objections here :-) I'm not going to make it to T-Dose unfortunately, but I'm curious about what you people decide there.
Cheers, Jelle
Jelle Hermsen schreef op 19-10-2012 10:43:
On Oct 19, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Rutger van Sleen (NLLGG) wrote:
I'll be at T-Dose and like to see what we can accomplish. Hopefully we get a new coordinator soon!
Just wondering, does this also mean that you're signing up for the task? No objections here :-)
Haha :)
I'm afraid not, I'm working on the continuation of NLLGG and takes most of my free time. But I'm willing to talk about what to do and maybe the NLLGG can offer some help with this.
I'm not going to make it to T-Dose unfortunately, but I'm curious about what you people decide there.
Pity you can't be there, I think it would be best if everyone is kept uptodate through this list.
Kind regards,
On 10/23/12 14:44, Rutger van Sleen (NLLGG) wrote:
Jelle Hermsen schreef op 19-10-2012 10:43:
Just wondering, does this also mean that you're signing up for the task? No objections here :-)
Haha :)
I'm afraid not, I'm working on the continuation of NLLGG and takes most of my free time. But I'm willing to talk about what to do and maybe the NLLGG can offer some help with this.
Great. There hasn't been that much happening at the dutch side of FSFE lately. I guess we're all busy with our day jobs and such, but there sure are a lot of plans and ambitions, so your help could definitely come in handy.
Pity you can't be there, I think it would be best if everyone is kept uptodate through this list.
Yeah, I think it's best if we use the mailing list as main "hub" for our communications. In the past there were some who favored meeting IRL and doing most decision making there and then, but as we're not all able to meet at the same time and those times are scarce anyway, I believe it might be best if we use the mailing list as if we're all living continents apart, just like regular FLOSS-projects do :-)
Maybe we can kick off some discussion about what we want to accomplish with FSFE in the lowlands. To summarize discussions we had a while ago, one of the first things would be to show our face at conferences and maybe use our NL (BNL?) team to relieve Rainer a bit. Another thing which is important are translations. I translated the monthly newsletter for a while, but I stopped doing this a while ago, putting more time directly into FLOSS-projects. I think it might be a good idea if we can get the Dutch translations on the road again, but especially regarding the website this is a bit of a Sisyphus task when you try to do it solo.
For me it's not that easy to make it to conferences in the weekend, and fosdem et al, because I'm the main care giver of two daughters. So unless I can push my own work aside during the week (I'm self-employed so that's doable) I won't be able to show my face much. Therefor I would love the idea of using this mailing list as the main spot for discussions and decision making.
Cheers, Jelle
Jelle Hermsen wrote:
Maybe we can kick off some discussion about what we want to accomplish with FSFE in the lowlands. To summarize discussions we had a while ago, one of the first things would be to show our face at conferences and maybe use our NL (BNL?) team to relieve Rainer a bit.
Manning a stand is not really my piece of cake, but I will be at T-DOSE next weekend. I heard a rumour that FSFE might not be there (despite being listed on the website) because there was some confusion about dates resulting in double booking.
Another thing which is important are translations. I translated the monthly newsletter for a while, but I stopped doing this a while ago, putting more time directly into FLOSS-projects. I think it might be a good idea if we can get the Dutch translations on the road again, but especially regarding the website this is a bit of a Sisyphus task when you try to do it solo.
Translations are indeed important because I sometimes find myself not pointing someone to (a page on) the website because I know they'll be turned off by English (or just unable to understand it). I also know that good translating eats up a lot of time, which is why I'm reluctant to commit to the job for the long term (I don't like making promises I can't keep).
For me it's not that easy to make it to conferences in the weekend, and fosdem et al, because I'm the main care giver of two daughters. So unless I can push my own work aside during the week (I'm self-employed so that's doable) I won't be able to show my face much. Therefor I would love the idea of using this mailing list as the main spot for discussions and decision making.
You have my vote for fsfe-bnl. I believe in an earlier discussion fsfe-nl was found to be deprecated.
Hi everyone,
@Mark: I hope you're doing well, despite the heavy workload in your new job!
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 02:20:16AM +0200, Mark Lamers wrote:
As i took a new job last summer, i haven't been that active for the FSFE in the Netherlands. The job is heavier as expected. I don't see a improvement in free / spare time. For now i resign as coordinator for the Dutch Fellows and ask you to select a new coordinator among you. I discussed this with Rainer. Rainer would like to see you at the boot at T-Dose to discuss this.
At the moment, there doesn't seem to be any activity regarding the "unlocking education" campaign. As far as I can tell, there's also currently no prospect of anyone taking this up again and driving it -- is that correct?
Is there anyone here who would like to take this back up again?
If that's not the case, would it be ok if we de-listed the campaign from our website at
https://fsfe.org/campaigns/campaigns.en.html
for the time being?
Naturally, we'll keep everything archived. If this comes back to life, we'll be very happy to re-post the materials.
Is there any other way in which we can help you to work for Free Software?
I'm copying Rainer Kersten and our Erik Albers, both of whom will do what they can for you.
Best regards, Karsten
Hello all,
I haven't seen a reply to this one, so this is an attempt to get some of the facts straight.
Karsten Gerloff schreef op 29-10-2012 16:34:
Hi everyone,
@Mark: I hope you're doing well, despite the heavy workload in your new job!
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 02:20:16AM +0200, Mark Lamers wrote:
As i took a new job last summer, i haven't been that active for the FSFE in the Netherlands. The job is heavier as expected. I don't see a improvement in free / spare time. For now i resign as coordinator for the Dutch Fellows and ask you to select a new coordinator among you. I discussed this with Rainer. Rainer would like to see you at the boot at T-Dose to discuss this.
At the moment, there doesn't seem to be any activity regarding the "unlocking education" campaign. As far as I can tell, there's also currently no prospect of anyone taking this up again and driving it -- is that correct?
Is there anyone here who would like to take this back up again?
Jan Stedehouder, who started the campaign, has retired it. Since the Dutch government had gone into re-election, Jan thought it was time to move on and see what the new-chosen government would do. He also stated that he wasn't going to pull it off, according to Jan someone else who can devote his/her time to it would be a better candidate.
If that's not the case, would it be ok if we de-listed the campaign from our website at
https://fsfe.org/campaigns/campaigns.en.html
for the time being?
Naturally, we'll keep everything archived. If this comes back to life, we'll be very happy to re-post the materials.
I think personally that it's okay to take it offline, unless somebody jumps into action right now.
Is there any other way in which we can help you to work for Free Software?
I'm copying Rainer Kersten and our Erik Albers, both of whom will do what they can for you.
First of all, I haven't seen a notification of the new Dutch 'leader'. As far as I have heard, Maurice Verheesen was too slow to run away from getting elected on T-DOSE. ;)
Second, how many Dutchies are reading this and what do they want to do?
Third, I would love to invite FSFE(-NL) to join one (or more) meetings of the NLLGG. The next one would be a week after FOSDEM, 9 februari.
Kind regards,
hi Mark,
also from my side: Thanks a lot for all the work you did in the past. As it is always a great pleasure to see you, I hope we see each other at FOSDEM next year.
All the best with the new job, and I hope that in the future you will have time again so we can work together on software freedom.
All the best!!! Matthias