I think we should view the IFSO disks as one of our key projects. It gives Free Software great exposure.
Perhaps we can set up a working group to help David? Amongst other things, we will need people to test it before it is mastered. It might be that some folks on the ILUG and at various Netsocs would be willing to help as well.
On the issue of CDs vs DVDs, there's probably a lot of old computers out there without DVD drives, so we might lose some coverage if we go with DVDs. Adding video is a good idea, though.
On the issue of sleeves, I'm very much in favour. Aside from an opportunity to discuss Free Software, they'll allow us to display the warranty.
Good luck,
Malcohol.
_________________________________________________________________ Sign up for eircom broadband now and get a free two month trial.* Phone 1850 73 00 73 or visit http://home.eircom.net/broadbandoffer
"Malcolm Tyrrell" writes:
I think we should view the IFSO disks as one of our key projects. It gives Free Software great exposure.
I agree. I've finally gotten to see one of the CDs and it's brilliant.
I've made a list of suggestions. David, should I post them here or make a wiki page for them?
The main thing is to add Emacs and a replace Mozilla with Firefox or Epiphany. The rest are really just UI/menu tweaks.
Perhaps we can set up a working group to help David?
This seems like a good fit for a wiki page or three, y/n?
On the issue of CDs vs DVDs, there's probably a lot of old computers out there without DVD drives
I'd agree here.
I've made a list of suggestions. David, should I post them here or make a wiki page for them?
Both
The main thing is to add Emacs and a replace Mozilla with Firefox or Epiphany. The rest are really just UI/menu tweaks.
Perhaps we can set up a working group to help David?
This seems like a good fit for a wiki page or three, y/n?
y
On the issue of CDs vs DVDs, there's probably a lot of old computers out there without DVD drives
I'd agree here.
True, though the new software is gonna make an old pc grind espically running off a cd. And everyone has a DVD player to watch to moveies on the cd (will work like a normal DVD hopefully). I bought myself a DVD writer yesterday and 50 blanks to start playing anyhow.
David
-- Ciarán O'Riordan http://www.compsoc.com/~coriordan/ Free Software in Ireland: http://ifso.ie _______________________________________________ fsfe-ie@fsfeurope.org mailing list List information: http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/fsfe-ie Public archive: https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-ie
On Monday, January 24, 2005 at 21:23 +0000, David Cathcart wrote:
I've made a list of suggestions. David, should I post them here or make a wiki page for them?
Both
The main thing is to add Emacs and a replace Mozilla with Firefox or Epiphany. The rest are really just UI/menu tweaks.
Perhaps we can set up a working group to help David?
This seems like a good fit for a wiki page or three, y/n?
y
Let's start here: http://www.ifso.ie/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi/IfsoCd
If you want to help with producing the disc then add yourself to the production team page linked from there.
If you have an idea for the CD then edit the above page or the "disc contents" page.
On , January 24, 2005 at 21:06 +0000, Ciaran O'Riordan wrote:
"Malcolm Tyrrell" writes:
I think we should view the IFSO disks as one of our key projects. It gives Free Software great exposure.
I agree. I've finally gotten to see one of the CDs and it's brilliant.
I've made a list of suggestions. David, should I post them here or make a wiki page for them?
The main thing is to add Emacs and a replace Mozilla with Firefox or Epiphany. The rest are really just UI/menu tweaks.
A wiki page is probably a more convenient reference when building the disc (but discussion here).
I agree with Firefox (& Thunderbird, I suppose). But is the page composer available in anything but Moz? What's the total size for all three anyway (since the Gecko core should be shared).
I love Emacs and it's my main working environment, but I'd rather see GCC/G++. That would make the disc useful for students who have programming homework, etc. If free-java-sdk and python also fit then that's a lot of ground covered.
Perhaps we can set up a working group to help David?
This seems like a good fit for a wiki page or three, y/n?
Yes. I'll make a start if you like. The key question is, David, what kind of help do you need? People to test? People to package? What else?
On the issue of CDs vs DVDs, there's probably a lot of old computers out there without DVD drives
I'd agree here.
It's obviously true - every DVD drive can ready CDs, but not the other way around. Still, the attraction not having to pick & choose packages is huge. Can we find out how many people in the target audience would be able to use a DVD?
Yes. I'll make a start if you like. The key question is, David, what kind of help do you need? People to test? People to package? What else?
Jsut thinking quickly before we get started on anything, someone who has experience with irish-language translations/openoffice with irish dictionaries, would be helpfull. I'd like to see this version offer more support for irish (language), as in irish dictionaries in openoffice on the GNU/Linux version and in the windows version.
Wandered accross this btw: http://sdec.reach.ie/faq/rigs/whyOpenOffice/
I'd agree here.
It's obviously true - every DVD drive can ready CDs, but not the other way around. Still, the attraction not having to pick & choose packages is huge. Can we find out how many people in the target audience would be able to use a DVD?
If anyone can find a recent statistic of % of pc's with dvd's that would help us make our decision.
Keep in mind the last cd was full, i had to go through morphix removieng un-needed packages to fit things in. If we want to do more than update things we're going to have to either drop something or go for a dvd.
David
On Monday, January 24, 2005 at 23:18 +0000, David Cathcart wrote:
I'd agree here.
It's obviously true - every DVD drive can ready CDs, but not the other way around. Still, the attraction not having to pick & choose packages is huge. Can we find out how many people in the target audience would be able to use a DVD?
If anyone can find a recent statistic of % of pc's with dvd's that would help us make our decision.
I'll see if I can find anything solid we can base a decision on.
My utterly unscientific impression is that most home machines from the last 2-3 years will have DVD drives, and machines from earlier are much less likely to. Work-owned machines also seem to be slightly less likely to have DVD drives. But as I say, this is just an impression.
Keep in mind the last cd was full, i had to go through morphix removieng un-needed packages to fit things in. If we want to do more than update things we're going to have to either drop something or go for a dvd.
I know; it's probably impossible to include more packages than we already have unless we go to DVD. I suppose it's possible to find a few to remove, but I doubt there is much.
Stuff we should also include: (i) localised scripts. We have some dialer scripts, etc, but there might be more we can do there. (ii) some reading material about Free Software (and IFSO); text, at least, is easy to include, and has value.