FSFE-IE July 2004

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Minutes 2004-08-27
by Glenn Strong 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Minutes from the follow-up meeting, held in Mahaffey's pub, 2004-08-27. Present: Aidan Delaney Malcolm Tyrrell Glenn Strong Ciaran O'Riordan David Cathcart Teresa Hackett Ben North Conor Nash * Recognising donors: mail donors to determine whether they want to be anonymous. Rather than acknowledging specific amounts we will group donations into bands. The only bands that were discussed so far were up to 1000 Euro, and above 1000 Euro. * We want a letterhead. It was agreed to ask on-list for a volunteer or volunteers to take responsibility for producing one. * Software freedom day: Several events were discussed, and it was decided to pursue the idea of a social event to promote free software. Renting a room, and circulating invitations to ILUG and similar places. We will try to combine this with a showing of "Revolution OS", and possibly a table quiz if prizes can be arranged. David agreed to make initial enquiries after a venue. * Malcolm will continue to explore the T-Shirts discussions. Ben North suggested an embroidered logo style rather than a printed one. -- Glenn Strong

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Tidying up gnu with harp
by Malcolm Tyrrell 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

As has been mentioned at a few meetings, a few of the lines on the gnu with harp .svg could do with tidying up. As we're planning to get some new promotional materials made soon, I thought it'd be worth doing now. I'll do it later today. Malcohol. _________________________________________________________________ Surf for free all summer long with eircom broadband.* Phone 1850 73 00 73 or visit http://home.eircom.net/broadbandoffer

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Microsoft meets EC judge | The Register
by Barry Mahon 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

This register report says the FSFE will be represented at this hearing. The EC maintains (rightly in my view) that MS must abide by the judgement that it ship the OS without media player, while awaiting the appeal. The appeal will take 'up to 3 years' and in the EC view if they don't abide meantime the result will be meaningless. <URL: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/27/microsoft_ec_appeal/ >

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Euro-copyrights. org/EC review of copyright legislation/TACD Future of WIPO meeting
by Teresa Hackett [default] 27 Jul '04

27 Jul '04

Euro-copyrights. org provides an overview of the protection of technological measures in the European Union. They're looking for contributoes to report on a number of countries including Ireland. http://www.euro-copyrights.org The European Commission recently launched a public consultation on the legislative framework for copyright and related rights (the 8 Directives), to "iron out inconsistencies, simplify provisions and to assess whether any further legislation is required". Continues the work on the updating of the acquis begun at the Commission copyright conference in 2002. Comments by 31.10.2004. More information, including a Commission staff working paper at: http://europa.eu.int/comm/internal_market/copyright/review/review_en.htm The TransAtlantic Consumer Dialogue (TACD) will host a two-day meeting in Geneva on the Future of WIPO on 13-14.9.2004. The meeting will bring together leading experts and stakeholders from academia, industry, NGOs, and governments, as well as members of the WIPO secretariat, to discuss the future of this United Nations Agency. This one should be fun ;-) http://www.tacd.org/cgi-bin/db.cgi?page=view&config=admin/docs.cfg&id=259 Teresa PS Apologies for the virus attachment that got sent to the list last week - Conor was right, I didn't send it (it appeared to come to me from the co-ordinator of the Green Group in the European Parliament) - cannot explain how it happened as I was in Moscow all week, my computer was powered off in Dublin and I didn't access my mail while away - eircom can't explain either - so I've deleted the fsf-ie address from my webmail address book as a precaution - if there's anything else to prevent this, please shoot me a mail off-list - thanks.

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Meeting, Tuesday 27th July, 19:00 at Mahaffey's. Topics?
by Ciaran O'Riordan 26 Jul '04

26 Jul '04

The follow up meeting is going ahead tomorrow, but an hour earlier than normal (1900 instead of 2000h), and the venue is Mahaffey's again. The meeting might really start at 19:30 since the reschedule is on short notice, but there will be IFSO people there from 1900 onwards. The map to mahaffey's is still at: http://www.compsoc.com/~coriordan/images/mahaffeys.png Stuff to be discussed: -IFSO should apply to become an associated member of FSFE soon. This is a change to the previous "some time this year" schedule. -Software Freedom Day: Put a plan on the Ireland page: http://softwarefreedomday.org/wiki/index.php/Ireland (thanks Conor) T-shirt making and CD pressing has to be discussed -A "donors" section will be added to the /people.html page, how to categorise donors is undecided. -Events: more talks? how many, what size, etc. A series of talks culminating in one big(name) talk? -Letters to the current MEPs (I have a draft, will bring with me), and letters to politicians who aren't MEPs but have been helpful (Ben North's done a draft, will bring with me.) Anything else? -- Ciarán O'Riordan http://www.compsoc.com/~coriordan/ Free Software in Ireland: http://ifso.ie

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Minutes 2004-07-20
by Ciaran O'Riordan 25 Jul '04

25 Jul '04

In attendance: Aidan Delaney Glenn Strong David Cathcart David Barrett Stephen Howell Malcolm Tyrrell Ciaran O'Riordan Today's meeting was disorganised, so we've decided to hold another meeting next week, probably next tuesday (July 27th). The venue will have to be confirmed, but details will be posted to fsfe-ie, probably today (wednesday 21st). Some people had to leave early, so we squeezed the official business into a few minutes, and decided we'd confirm or redebate it at the next meeting. Minutes: * How should IFSO recognise donors? => we should have a "thanks" section on the website, and donors should be grouped i.e. 1-100 euro, 101-250, ... (the actual grouping has yet to be discussed). * How often should accounts and financial info be published? => Once a year, at or just before the AGM, before committee elections. * When should IFSO apply to become official associates of FSFE? => Some time this year, no rush. Maybe we should make a big deal (read: press release) about it. * Software Freedom Day, what should we do? => No one present supported the idea of handing out CDs on Grafton St. Many takers would just bin them. There was also no support for handing out CDs in business districts - fear of viruses would prevent people from using them. Handing out leaflets often needs a permit, and very few takers will be interested when they see what they took. => We should do something though, and to get started we should sign up as a team on softwarefreedomday.org => IFSO t-shirts? 6 euro for low quality t-shirts (any colour) with one colour print (any one colour). Could be okay - other prices are being looked for. * Organising Events: => Should we go for one conference (multiple speakers), or multiple (2-4) talks with one speaker? There was a lot of discussion about how to organise a conference, but I don't think anyone was behind it by the end. I pushed the multiple talks idea, suggestions being Eben Moglen, Georg Greve, Hartmut Pilch, and Alan Cox. The goal being to get free software users (LUGers, lurkers, etc.) interested in helping IFSO. => Malcolm was also interested in events aimed at software users who are probably not currently aware of free software. * Promoting Free Software: => Get people to sign up as IFSO members at freshers week in college? nope, colleges wouldn't let us do that. => Get our Live CD put into college (or netsoc?) welcome packs? yes, but who's going to burn all the CDs? We have one offer of mass CD burning which we'll look into, and we'll price other options. => We should ask Intersocs, or various individual Socs, if we can work together on some of these things. End of minutes. Next meeting in about 7 days time with similar agenda. -- Ciarán O'Riordan http://www.compsoc.com/~coriordan/ Free Software in Ireland: http://ifso.ie

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HP Memo Predicts MS Patent Attacks on Open Source
by Adam Moran 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

Hi, This news is old news in that it appeared on Slashdot at the beginning of the week: http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/07/20/0055233.shtml?tid=155&tid=109&tid=123 ... and the memo itself is 2 years old. ( Full story and memo text here: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/07/19/2315200 ) One bit of the article relates to SWPATs, although it's tagged as speculation: > Although the patent attacks have still not been launched, some speculate that it is only a matter of time. One well-known figure in the open source community, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told us: > > "MS had to hold off due to anti-trust prosecution in the EU and US, and also they didn't want to create bad news for new European software patenting laws before they got what they wanted. Now they have the prospect of being able to prosecute the same patents in Europe ..." -- Adam M

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meeting tonight, 8pm, benshaws. Agenda:
by Ciaran O'Riordan 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

As per usual, 3rd tuesday of the month: http://ifso.ie/about.html#meetings Some stuff on the agenda: Who has contacts in small/medium businesses unions/organisations? Are there SMB associations that I could go talk to? or that we could send info about FS and patent inflation to? software freedom day: get a speaker? handout leaflets & CDs on Grafton St.? Send leaflets & CDs to libraries and companies? or what? (not nothing) Patents directive: status report and plan Future events: Should IFSO organise more talks with outside speakers? (Greve/Pilch/Moglen?) or should we do something else? Where's IFSO going: general plan and informal procedures for getting things done quicker -- Ciarán O'Riordan http://www.compsoc.com/~coriordan/ Free Software in Ireland: http://ifso.ie

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Re: [Fsfe-ie] meeting tonight, 8pm, benshaws. Agenda:
by Malcolm Tyrrell 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

> Future events: Should IFSO organise more talks with > outside speakers? (Greve/Pilch/Moglen?) or should we do > something else? A suggestion by Teresa was to host topic specific talks (e.g. Free Software in Healthcare, Free Software in Education, etc) where we would get an expert in and invite the relevant local parties. This shall also be under discussion tonight. Malx. _________________________________________________________________ Surf for free all summer long with eircom broadband.* Phone 1850 73 00 73 or visit http://home.eircom.net/broadbandoffer

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Re:
by Teresahackett 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

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