Re: [FOSS4SMEs-team] FOSS4SMEs: Ο2/Α3 Moodle course - Improvements (by 31.05.) - foss4smes-team@lists.fsfe.org

21 Jun 2019

      Dear all,
all units look good except from 3 and 5.
- Brian please get back to me on Unit 3.
   - Galia  please get back to me on Unit 5 - separate e-mail communication.
Please proceed the required updates *by 24.06. the latest* and inform me if
these are complete. Thank you all in advance for your support.
Best,
Katerina
Στις Δευ, 17 Ιουν 2019 στις 7:06 μ.μ., ο/η Jonas Gamalielsson <
jonas.gamalielsson@his.se> έγραψε:
...
Dear Katerina,
We have made updates to Unit 4 according to our description below and
uploaded the files "O2-A1_Content Unit 4_v6_for_usage_scenario_3.pdf"
and "O2-A1_Content Unit 4_v6_for_usage_scenario_1_and_2.odt" to the
folder "K:\team\foss4smes\2. Implementation\Outputs\Output 2\A1 Training
course contents\Final Units ENG" on Keybase.
Best
Jonas
On 2019-06-13 15:14, Jonas Gamalielsson wrote:
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Dear Katerina,
I frankly don't understand how the intro of unit 1 adheres to what you
have asked from authors of other units in your earlier email :
"Introductory text for each Unit: In Unit 2, 3, 4 and 5 you need
to adjust your text in order to explain what the participant
will learn in each lesson. Check the example of Unit 1."
For unit 1 the introductory text is:
"Within Unit 1, we will explore the following:
 in Lesson 1 the definition of ‘Free and Open Source Software’

(FOSS) and the main differences from proprietary software;
     in Lesson 2 the types of freedom related to FOSS, discerning
between facts and myths related to FOSS theory and applications;
     in Lesson 3 the issues related to licensing, user rights, ownership
and responsibilities of FOSS users;
     in Lesson 4 the ways to find relevant FOSS communities, the main
communities in the world as well as their ways of collaboration."
The expression "we will explore" does certainly not reflect "what the
participant will learn" (as stated in your request). I understand that
you seek some kind of consistency between modules, but I think our way
of beginning the introduction better reflects what you are asking for.
Our current introductory text for unit 4 is:
"Within Unit 4, the participant will be trained to:
 * understand what an incremental approach implies in the adoption

of FOSS;
     demonstrate why an incremental approach may be an effective
strategy in business;
     * make decisions on which FOSS products can be the most appropriate
for his/her business;
     * understand how FOSS products can interact with proprietary
software, and the possible implications;
     * understand and describe how FOSS can be customized according to
the business needs;
     * search for and find the right support for the selected FOSS tool"
If you want us to indicate what lesson the different bullets belong to
(to make it more consistent with unit 1), an alternative could be:
"Within Unit 4, the participant will be trained to:
 * in Lesson 1, understand what an incremental approach implies in

the adoption of FOSS; and demonstrate why an incremental approach may be
an effective strategy in business;
     * in Lesson 2, make decisions on which FOSS products can be the
most appropriate for his/her business;
     * in Lesson 3, understand how FOSS products can interact with
proprietary software, and the possible implications; and understand &
describe how FOSS can be customized according to the business needs;
     * in Lesson 4, search for and find the right support for the
selected FOSS tool."
This would make the presentation very similar to unit 1, but changing
"Within Unit 4, the participant will be trained to:" to "Within Unit 1,
we will explore the following:" does not work. We instead suggest that
all introductions should start with "Within Unit X, the participant will
be trained to:".
What do you think of this?
Best
Jonas
On 2019-06-12 10:01, Katerina Tsinari wrote:
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Dear all,
I am waiting for your feedback if you have finished updating your
units, so that ATL can create the other usage scenarios for SKUNI.

Brian please get back to me on Unit 3.
Galia received a seperate e-mail on Unit 5 - no need to reply here.
Sivan and Francesco get back to me on Unit 2.
Jonas get back to me on Unit 4.

Please proceed the required updates *by 14.06. the latest* or inform
me if these are complete.
Thank you all in advance for your support.
Best,
Katerina
Στις Τετ, 5 Ιουν 2019 στις 1:06 μ.μ., ο/η Katerina Tsinari
<tsinari@abe.gr mailto:tsinari@abe.gr> έγραψε:
Dear all,

first of all, a big thank you to the ones who did updated their
parts, which are now complete.

This is a reminder of the remaining spots that require an update:

  * Bibliography relevant for Unit 3 and 5. Check the example of
    Unit 1.
  * Introductory text for each Unit: In Unit 2, 3, 4 and 5 you need
    to adjust your text in order to explain what the participant
    will learn in each lesson. Check the example of Unit 1.
  * Summary part is missing in Lesson 5.1, 5.2, 5.3, 5.4. Check the
    example of Lesson 1.1.
  * Sources part is missing in Lesson 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 3.5, 5.1,
    5.2, 5.3, 5.4.  Check the example of Lesson 1.1.
  * In Lesson 3.4.: In Part 1 and Part 3 the title is missing. Check
    the example of Lesson 3.1.
Please make the required updates *by 07.06. the latest*.

Thank you all in advance for your support.

Best,

Katerina

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Από: *Katerina Tsinari* <tsinari@abe.gr <mailto:tsinari@abe.gr>>
Date: Παρ, 31 Μαΐ 2019 στις 12:24 μ.μ.
Subject: Re: [FOSS4SMEs-team] FOSS4SMEs: Ο2/Α3 Moodle course -
Improvements (by 31.05.)
To: Galia Mancheva <galia@fsfe.org <mailto:galia@fsfe.org>>
Cc: FOSS4SMEs mailing list <foss4smes-team@lists.fsfe.org
<mailto:foss4smes-team@lists.fsfe.org>>, Cosmas Vamvalis
<vamvalis@abe.gr <mailto:vamvalis@abe.gr>>

Deae Galia,

thank you very much for your feedback. I replied between your lines
to help you understand me better.

Please complete the necessary updates by 07.06.19. Thank you in

advance!
Best,
Katerina

Στις Τετ, 22 Μαΐ 2019 στις 5:58 μ.μ., ο/η Galia Mancheva
<galia@fsfe.org <mailto:galia@fsfe.org>> έγραψε:

    Dear Katerina,

    * Bibliography: for Unit 5 bibliography is not relevant

-->

Please add information on who is the Author of *Unit 5*, if the
information you present is new and is not based on previous sources.
Otherwise support your text, by providing relevant sources, which
will support your statements.

    * Introductory text for each Unit: Unit 5 has an introductory
    text, but I believe it is called "Lessons Overview" (my next
    email will have a
    more detailed feedback on those parts)

-->

You need to include a statement like in Unit 1.

/Within Unit 5, we will explore the following:/

//

  * /in Lesson 1/
  * /in Lesson 2/
  * /in Lesson 3/
  * /in Lesson 4/

The section "Lessons Overview" analyses in bullet points what will
be explored in one lesson and it is different for the Unit overview.

    * Summary part: in our case this is called "Lesson Overview" and
    it applies to all sub-sections

-->

It is different from the Overview. The summary analyses in a few
sentences the main things that the learner gained from a lesson. It
is a good preparation for the assessment exercise that is in the end
of each lesson.

    * Sources part: Lessons under Unit 5 do not have relevant
    bibliography.

-->

Please add information on who is the Author *of each Lesson*, if the
information you present is new and is not based on previous sources.
Otherwise support your text, by providing relevant sources, which
will support your statements.

    Kind Regards,
    Galia

    On 22/05/2019 11:08, Katerina Tsinari wrote:
     > Dear all,
     >
     > I have now checked all Units together in order to find the
    spots that
     > require improvement. I have then customised the relevant
    Units and
     > lessons, so that a common structure and naming (titles and
    sub-titles)
     > is secured according to your feedback after your tests.
     > There are some final improvements required. Here is a list

of the
         > missing things:
         >
         >   * Bibliography relevant for Unit 2, 3 and 5. Check the
        example of Unit 1.
         >   * Introductory text for each Unit: In Unit 2,3,4 and 5 you
        need to
         >     adjust your text in order to explain what the participant
        will learn
         >     in each lesson. Check the example of Unit 1.
         >   * Summary part is missing in Lesson 2.1, 5.1, 5.2, 5.3,
        5.4. Check the
         >     example of Lesson 1.1.
         >   * Sources part is missing in Lesson 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4,
        3.5, 5.1, 5.2,
         >     5.3, 5.4.  Check the example of Lesson 1.1.
         >   * In Lesson 3.4.: In Part 1 and Part 3 the title is
        missing. Check the
         >     example of Lesson 3.1.
         >
         > Please make the required updates *by 31.05. the latest*.
         > Thank you all in advance for your support. I am happy that we
        are almost
         > done with the content import and that by the end of May we
        will have a
         > good looking and consistent English course.
         >
         > Best,
         > Katerina
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