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[Finland] {Disarmed} Photon Hair UOM - Alisamento à "laser"
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20 Nov '09

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[Finland] {Disarmed} No-one needs to pay recruitment fees
by Steve Evans 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

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Re: [Finland] (luonnos) Euroopan vapaiden ohjelmistojen säätiön Suomen paikallisryhmä perustettu
by Timo Jyrinki 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Paikallisryhmän tehtävänä edustaa FSFE:tä Suomessa sekä edistää ^ on > FSFE:n toimintaan kuuluu VALOn edistäminen ja VALOn käyttäjien > oikeuksien turvaaminen kaikilla tasoilla. VALO auki? "FSFE:n toimintaan kuuluu vapaiden ja avoimen lähdekoodin ohjelmistojen (VALO) edistäminen ja VALOn käyttäjien oikeuksien turvaaminen kaikilla tasoilla." > FSFE on mukana lukuisissa > paikallisissa projekteissa ympäri Eurooppa sekä myös koko EU:ta ^ aa > FSFE on itsenäinen järjestö mutta se tekee toki tiivistä yhteistyötä ^ , > Pohjois-Amerikan FSF:n kanssa. Sisarjärjestöjä on myös ^ Free Software Foundationin > Ryhmä koostuu tällä hetkellä kolmesta vapaiden ohjelmistojen konkarista: > koordinaattori - Otto Kekäläinen (Ubuntu-fi, VALO-CD yms) ^ Ubuntu (suosittelisin) ehkä myös (Ubuntu, VALO-CD) ja jättää yms pois kaikista, sen voi ehkä ymmärtää muutenkin että kyseessä osa aktiviteeteista. "yms" on vähän sellainen "arkinen" tai jotain. > apulaiskoordinaattori - Henri Bergius (Midgard, COSS yms) > suomennoskoordinaattori - Timo Jyrinki (Ubuntu-fi, Wikipedia, OpenMoko yms) ^ (Ubuntu, Debian, Openmoko, COSS) (Openmoko pienellä m:llä) Wikipedia on ihan hyvä referenssi mutta toisaalta softastahan tässä on kyse ja mun Wikipedia-osallistuminen on enemmän historiallista :) -Timo

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Re: [Finland] FSFE-tapaaminen Helsingissä?
by Martin von Willebrand 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

Moi > -----Original Message----- > From: Henri Bergius [mailto:henri.bergius@iki.fi] > 2009/11/18 Otto Kekäläinen <otto(a)fsfe.org>: > > > > > > Tarvitaan paikka, jossa on videotykki ja riittävästi tilaa, sekä ehkä > > jotain lämmintä juomaa. Ajankohta saa olla arki-ilta, koska tapaaminen > > olisi suunnattu pääkaupunkiseudulla asuville. Ohjelma voisi olla > > esimerkiksi se, että minä pidän 20 min esitelmän FSFE:stä ja sitten > > voidaan vapaasti keskustella vapaiden ohjelmistojen edistämisestä > > Suomessa ja Euroopassa. > > Meidän toimistoamme (Hietalahdenkatu 8) voi käyttää tähän. > > > Otto Kekäläinen [] otto(a)fsfe.org > > /Henri Meillä on myös toimisto, jota voidaan tarvittaessa käyttää (Mannerheimintie 14 A). Nyt kuitenkin tilat jo on, ja hyvä että on useita tarjolla: jatkossa voidaan vaikka vuorotella, jos sellaista tarvetta on. (Ensimmäistä tilaisuutta varten meidän tilat on sitä paitsi ehkä vähän jäykät.) T: Martin

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Re: [Finland] FSFE:n Suomen tiimi perusteilla
by Timo Jyrinki 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Ok. Siitä tosin tuli bounce: Joo, Otolla oli väärä CC ekassa mailissa. Ja moi vaan Lindi ja Martin tätäkin kautta... nyt on jonkinasteinen FSFE-kuvio pystyssä. -Timo

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[Finland] (luonnos) Euroopan vapaiden ohjelmistojen säätiön Suomen paikallisryhmä perustettu
by Otto Kekäläinen 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

(jakelu fsfe-fi(a)fsfeurope.org, @flug, @fuug, @linux-aktivaattori, @effi, @coss, @creativecommons, @wikimedia sekä pari suomenkielistä Linux-uutissivustoa) Tiedote: FSFE:n Suomen paikallisryhmä perustettu Euroopan vapaiden ohjelmistojen säätiön (Free Software Foundation Europe) virallinen Suomen paikallisryhmä (local team) on perustettu. Paikallisryhmän tehtävänä edustaa FSFE:tä Suomessa sekä edistää suomalaisten ja kansainvälisten vapaiden ohjelmistojen toimijoiden tiedonvaihtoa ja yhteistyötä. Paikallisryhmä toimii myös suomenkielisenä mediakontaktina sekä asiantuntijalähteenä suomalaisille päätöksentekijöille ja erityisesti europarlamentaarikoille. FSFE:n toimintaan kuuluu VALOn edistäminen ja VALOn käyttäjien oikeuksien turvaaminen kaikilla tasoilla. FSFE on mukana lukuisissa paikallisissa projekteissa ympäri Eurooppa sekä myös koko EU:ta koskevissa asioissa. FSFE on EU:n tunnistama asiantuntijataho, joka on ollut mukana esim. ohjelmistopatentteihin, monopolioikeudenkäynteihin ja tietoyhteiskunnan edistämistoimenpiteisiin liittyvissä asioissa. FSFE on osallistunut myös kaikkia länsimaita maailmaa koskeviin asioihin, kuten WIPO:oon ja ACTA:aan. FSFE on itsenäinen järjestö mutta se tekee toki tiivistä yhteistyötä Pohjois-Amerikan FSF:n kanssa. Sisarjärjestöjä on myös Etelä-Amerikassa ja Intiassa. Suomen ryhmän tavoittaa - sähköpostitse finland(a)fsfeurope.org - puhelimella: +358 44 566 2204 Ryhmä koostuu tällä hetkellä kolmesta vapaiden ohjelmistojen konkarista: koordinaattori - Otto Kekäläinen (Ubuntu-fi, VALO-CD yms) apulaiskoordinaattori - Henri Bergius (Midgard, COSS yms) suomennoskoordinaattori - Timo Jyrinki (Ubuntu-fi, Wikipedia, OpenMoko yms) FSFE on voittoa tavoittelematon yhteisö, joka muutamaa palkattua toimistohenkilöä lukuunottamatta perustuu vapaaehtoistyöhön. Jos olet kiinnostunut FSFE:stä, tule toki mukaan toimintaan! Lisätietoja: http://fsfe.org/about/about.fi.html Liity Fellowship-jäseneksi: https://fellowship.fsfe.org/join -- Otto Kekäläinen [] otto(a)fsfe.org Finnish Team Coordinator [][][] GPG/PGP 0xB7F7E4E1 Free Software Foundation Europe || +358 44 566 2204 http://www.fsfe.org/ finland(a)fsfe.org

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[Finland] Crowdsourcing CertifiedOpen [Fwd: CertifiedOpen]
by Karsten Gerloff 17 Nov '09

17 Nov '09

Hi, Otto: many thanks for the memo! During our meeting with the Finnish country team, the idea below came up. It's about rating devices, web services etc. for their degree of freedom / openness in a crowdsourced way. We would establish a list of criteria and set up a rating platform. People could then rate a given device or service according to those criteria. This initiative would provide people with practical orientation about the freedoms (or lack thereof) that devices and services give them. It would be a good way to involve large numbers of people by having them do small tasks. It would also serve to establish FSFE as a knowledge centre, and it would do all these things with a reasonable effort. IIRC, Henri Bergius already volunteered to build the necessary platform using Midgard. I think this is a very good idea. FSFE's past attempts at rating anything in a similar way have always suffered from the fact that we didn't have the necessary resources. By letting Fellows (and others) do the rating in a transparent way, we solve that problem. Best regards, Karsten ----- Forwarded message from Otto Kekäläinen <otto(a)fsfe.org> ----- > From: Otto Kekäläinen <otto(a)fsfe.org> > To: finland(a)fsfeurope.org, Karsten Gerloff <gerloff(a)fsfeurope.org> > Subject: CertifiedOpen > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:30:03 +0200 > X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1 > > Hello, > > Here is the memo I wrote about CertifiedOpen. Feel free to continue on > it. I am unlikely to do anything about it now, since I have so many > other priorities at the moment... > > > -- > Otto Kekäläinen [] otto(a)fsfe.org > Finnish Team Coordinator [][][] GPG/PGP 0xB7F7E4E1 > Free Software Foundation Europe || +358 44 566 2204 > http://www.fsfe.org/ finland(a)fsfe.org > Certified Open - the crow sourced way > > = Check list = > > == User experience == > - Are you allowed to use the product to any purpose, even things that the vendor didn't intend it for? > - Can you install any software you which on it? > - Can you get root access? > - Does it depend on something external to work (cloud service)? > - Does it continue to function even after the vendor has stopped supporting the product? > - Can you buy services to the device from more than one vendor? > - Are you allowed to sell forward the product if you don't want to use it yourself anymore? > - Are you allowed to copy and redistribute the product? > > == Data management == > - Can you get your data in? > - Can you export your data out? > - Does it relay on and external service that contains the data? > > == Development == > - Are you allowed to study how the product works and poke around in it? > - Is the source code available and usable with an free license? > - Is the code documented and available directly from a repository? > - Are the specifications available? Can you read about the design? > - Can you follow up the development in real time? > - Can you participate in the development? > - Is there a public bug database? > - Are you allowed to distribute improved versions? > ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Karsten Gerloff [ ] <gerloff(a)fsfeurope.org> Free Software Foundation Europe [ ][ ][ ] [http://fsfe.org] President | | +49 176 9690 4298 Your donation powers our work! [http://fsfe.org/donate/] Free Software Foundation Europe e.V. is a German Verein registered at the Registergericht Hamburg (VR 17030).

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[Finland] CertifiedOpen
by Otto Kekäläinen 16 Nov '09

16 Nov '09

Hello, Here is the memo I wrote about CertifiedOpen. Feel free to continue on it. I am unlikely to do anything about it now, since I have so many other priorities at the moment... -- Otto Kekäläinen [] otto(a)fsfe.org Finnish Team Coordinator [][][] GPG/PGP 0xB7F7E4E1 Free Software Foundation Europe || +358 44 566 2204 http://www.fsfe.org/ finland(a)fsfe.org

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[Finland] Chinese Translation Co seeking cooperation
by info 13 Nov '09

13 Nov '09

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[Finland] Country team questions & answers -- Finland
by Karsten Gerloff 12 Nov '09

12 Nov '09

Dear all, here are the Finnish team's answers to the questions for country teams. Best regards, Karsten ----- Forwarded message from Otto Kekäläinen <otto(a)fsfe.org> ----- > From: Otto Kekäläinen <otto(a)fsfe.org> > To: Matthias Kirschner <mk(a)fsfe.org> > Cc: Henri Bergius <henri.bergius(a)iki.fi>, timo.jyrinki(a)iki.fi, > Karsten Gerloff <gerloff(a)fsfeurope.org> > Subject: Re: Meeting at FSCONS > Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:49:08 +0200 > X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 > [snip] > > to, 2009-10-29 kello 14:57 +0100, Matthias Kirschner kirjoitti: > > Hi all, > > > > as Karsten is ill at the moment, he asked me to coordinate our meeting > > at FSCONS. You can see the Fellowship events at FSCONS at the Wiki page: > > http://wiki.fsfe.org/FSCONS-FSFE. > > > > My proposal is: Meet at Saturday 09.00 - 10.30 during the OpenPGP smart > > card howto. And if we have some more things to discuss or we would like > > somebody else to include in the second meeting we could have another one > > at 17.15 - 18.15 after the PDFreaders workshop. > > > > Is the timing working for you? > > > > > > As a preperation to the meeting, can you sent Karsten and me the answers > > for those questions (it is not a problem if you do not have an answer to > > some of them, it is just for us to get a better picture of Free Software > > in Finnland). > > > > - What are the main Free Software organisations in Finnland right now? > > Please also list the biggest Linux User Groups or Associations (if > > they exist). > > flug.fi: Finnish Linux User Group > - about 400 members, decreasing activity > - has many local user groups in different cities > > l-a.fi: Linux-Aktivaattori ry > - about 30 members, seems to be dying > - has many three user groups in different cities > > fuug.fi: Finnish Linux User Group > - 30-50 members? minor activity > > coss.fi: Center for open source software in Finland > - has 100+ corporate members > - only corporations has influence in this organisation, most board > members represents the biggest corporations > - very active, but mainly business oriented > - not for private persons, not strictly about free as in freedom > > Additionally we also have some related organisations (Wikimedia Finland, > Electronic Frontier Finland etc) and some loose groups that are not > organised as any legal bodies (linux.fi, ubuntu-fi.org, vapaasuomi.fi > etc.) > > I'm a member in all of these above and my company is a member in COSS. > The situation is not bad, but some optimizing could be done to secure > the promotion and usage of free software in Finland. > > > > - What are the current issues in Free Software in your country? Are > > there any public debates ongoing about (for example) government > > procurement or similar things? > > The situation is improving much thanks to the work of COSS. Some > govermental recommendations have been published almost yearly since > 2001, but yet no law requires to tax funded software to be released with > a free license. The debate is increasing, but so fare it hasn't been > noticed by general media. > > Linux and Linus Torvalds is well known ;) > > > > - Are there regulations in your country regarding the procurement of > > software for government/ administration? Do they include Free Software > > options? > > Yes, several. See for example http://www.jhs-suositukset.fi/suomi/jhs169 > (after opening the page, select "EN" to see it in English) > > I think the main hinders for not using open source are: > > a) It is not yet well enough known to be trusted. Buying open source > solutions is outside the "comfort zone" for most high ranked officials > in goverment. The situation is likely to improve automatically with > time. > > b) Microsoft has a very effective sales organisation that is capable of > using FUD that scares people not to buy open source solutions. Also > Microsoft has a lot of money to put on fancy presentations and long > lunches.. > Additionally, the PR-chief of Microsoft in Finland is always recruited > from the same political party that has the majority in cabinet. In this > way the PR-chief of Microsoft can easily walk in to the office of the > prime minister, minister of education, minister of communication etc and > talk nice about Microsoft. Some of the former PR-chiefs in Finland have > also gone back to politics after their career at Microsoft and then used > their political influence to help Microsoft. This phenomenon (called > "revloving doors" in the US) is currently a completely legal form of > corruption. > > > > - Is it possible to buy latops and desktops with Free Software > > preinstalled? Or without non-free software. Or is it usual practice in > > your country to sell Windows bundled with new computers? If so, what > > does usually happen when you ask the vendor to sell you the computer > > without a bundled license? > > There is two webshops: linuxkauppa.fi and linuxcomp.net. However their > selection is small and prices not very competitive.. There are also > several places where you can buy preinstalled used computers and > computers without a bundled OEM-license. > > However, none of the major computer dealers provide preinstalled Linux > nor laptops without an OEM-windows. Normal workstations can sometimes be > bought without an preinstalled OS. > > Last summer we had the Asus EeePC with preinstalled Linux for sale at > one large dealer, but for some reason unknown to me nowadays no > Linux-version of EeePC is even imported. Maybe Microsoft chatted with > the importers..? > > > > - Does your country have a government sponsored consumer advocacy group? > > Yes, http://www.kuluttajavirasto.fi/en-GB/ > They also publish a magazine. > There are also muncipal and private consumer rights advocates. > I've been in touch with some of them with the result that both Ubuntu > and VALO-CD (my free softare disc for Windows project) has been > mentioned. > > > - What are the main conferences/ trade fairs/ events that IT people in > > your country attend? What is their focus and when are they usually > > held? > > Numerous. I won't list them all here but we could later make a list of > events where FSFE could be present in the future. I'm sure we'll get > some people to man a booth. > > > - What is the name of the biggest Free Software oriented service > > companies in your country (i.e. companies that make money installing, > > customising, training people in the use of Free Software)? > > See www.coss.fi -> corporate members > > However, all of the main stream support services are based on Windows > and they don't care about Linux at all. We need to make more noise so > they know there is a demand. > > > - Is there a movement to get educational institutions to start teaching > > with Free Software? > > Yes, there are several projects on the move. I participated in 2006 in > writing some FOSS-guides for schools that where published by the Finnish > national board of education (http://www.oph.fi/english). The project is > about to be relaunched and updated soon. > > There is also a market leader in LTSP solutions for schools that has got > some publicity: www.opinsys.fi > > COSS has a section that is aimed for the education sector. > I also rembember one school getting a price from the prime minister > thanks to cost effective and creative use of IT (they where one of the > first schools to adopt LTSP). > > > - Is there "Software Education" taught in schools in your country? If > > so, at which age do children start to learn to use software? > > Not to my knowledge. > > > - Are there government sponsored GNU/Linux distributions available? If > > so, what is their focus (education, security, privacy, ...)? > > Not to my knowledge. > The ministry of justice uses OpenOffice and they have sponsored a > OpenOffice-USB-stick. > > > - Does you government support electronic transmission of tax information > > and -filings? If so, does it provide software for the taxpayer to use? > > Is this software Free Software? Is it available for non-Microsoft > > Operating Systems? > > Not to my knowledge. Electronic tax payment is browser baised or you can > use special bank transfer codes - both of which are platform agnostic. > > > - Does your legal system accept software patents? Is there a discussion > > around this topic? > > Software patents are issued, but not legal. > > > > - What are your personal goals for the new chapter in your country? > > Please list them as 1, 3, 5 year goals. > > To double the member amount each year ;) > We'll discuss this more when all of the Finnish team is present. > > > - Does the current ruling party in your country address the question of > > Free Software in their program / strategy? > > The cabinet made a statement about accelerating the development of the > information society that includes a short line about increasing the use > of open architectures and open source. > > Also the minister of communication said publicly this autum, that we should > use more open souce. Also the newly elected head of the government IT > center said in an interview that "it is time to make all the open source > promise true". > > So you can see, the situation is improving. > > > - Whats are the biggest IT magazines in your country? How much of this > > magazines is dedicated to Free Software? > > Tietokone, Tietoviikko, Mikrobitti, MikroPC. There is no free software > only -magazine, but Linux and open source stuff is often reviewed in > these magazines. > > > > -- > Otto Kekäläinen [] otto(a)fsfe.org > Finnish Team Coordinator [][][] GPG/PGP 0xB7F7E4E1 > Free Software Foundation Europe || +358 44 566 2204 > http://www.fsfe.org/ finland(a)fsfe.org > ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Karsten Gerloff [ ] <gerloff(a)fsfeurope.org> Free Software Foundation Europe [ ][ ][ ] [http://fsfe.org] President | | +49 176 9690 4298 Your donation powers our work! [http://fsfe.org/donate/] Free Software Foundation Europe e.V. is a German Verein registered at the Registergericht Hamburg (VR 17030).

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