On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 12:31, Michael Kesper mkesper@fsfe.org wrote:

Dear all,

it gets ever "funnier". Now I received this confirmation for removal of this list. (I redacted the hash, obviously) I suspect it gets created if you click on Daniel's unsubscribe link. The IP address is not mine.

Mine has too been initiated from that IP address.

That’s obviously Daniel.

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Michael

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On 02/05/2019 11:31, Michael Kesper wrote:

Dear all,

it gets ever "funnier". Now I received this confirmation for removal of this list. (I redacted the hash, obviously) I suspect it gets created if you click on Daniel's unsubscribe link. The IP address is not mine.

Michael

Hopefully it can get resolved, while the fsfe didn't pass on this info in some cases the senders e-mail is within one of the e-mail header fields, (sorry don't know the terminology) sufficient to say if I just hit reply as opposed to reply list i reply to a single person.

However this feature _is_ useful, if someone posted something like a request and then someone said send me a e-mail off list to discuss further then we are able to do this easily,

I am not blaming the fsfe here.

I think we need to examine the law (GDPR) here if someone request removal this should be a painless process, as some times this is done to simply change e-mail addresses. It appears with the .eu it is totally the opposite and we have enough 'victims' to take action.

It may be worth looking at the subscriber list here as looking at some of the from, to, cc, reply to headers I am getting on Thunderbird e-mails seem to be going all over the place.

Keep up the good work with the fsfe, it would be great to be able to get back on track with our work, rather than having to deal with this sort of thing.

Paul