Hello,
I see that some people are still having fun with the Mailman interface trying to unsubscribe people from this list, specifically 91.64.208.89 or ip5b40d059.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de as they are also known.
Perhaps some actual, reasoned discussion about the challenges raised by recent events related to the FSFE might be preferable to rather clumsy attempts to play with people's mailing list subscriptions.
Paul
On 06/05/2019 00:00, Paul Boddie wrote:
Hello,
I see that some people are still having fun with the Mailman interface trying to unsubscribe people from this list, specifically 91.64.208.89 or ip5b40d059.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de as they are also known.
Perhaps some actual, reasoned discussion about the challenges raised by recent events related to the FSFE might be preferable to rather clumsy attempts to play with people's mailing list subscriptions.
Paul
I think it is trying to do that to me, I have already removed myself from the unofficial fellowship list. Now I am getting unauthorized attempts to remove me from the fsfe.org list
What exactly is going on here please. This is reflecting very very badly on the fsfe in general.
Paul
Hi Paul,
Am Montag 06 Mai 2019 10:00:06 schrieb Paul Sutton:
Now I am getting unauthorized attempts to remove me from the fsfe.org list What exactly is going on here please.
technically: Anyone can use the mailman interface to request an unsubscribe event for a specific mail address. Mailman then sends a confirmation email which can be ignored. This is a quite common mechanism, to make it easy for people that want to unsubscribe. It works with many internet offerings.
If it wasn't you that initiated the unsubscription event, it was somebody else. The mailman system can only record the IP address of the requesting server, and thus include it in the confirmation email. From the reports here and my own experience, we have a number of people being affected. So this likely is a scripted attempt to impersonate people by their email address.
For normal internet providers, this is against their terms of service. Therefor a friendly abuse complaint to the service provider of the IP originating false request maybe a next step if the person behind the script does not reconsider.
Another step is to try to block temporarily from our server side if many unsubscribe events originate from the same IP, as this is a sign of malice. As far as I know this is already being done, but the script seems to get started from several different IP addresses.
Best Regards, Bernhard
Je lun, 2019-05-06 je 09:00 +0100, Paul Sutton skribis:
On 06/05/2019 00:00, Paul Boddie wrote:
Hello,
I see that some people are still having fun with the Mailman interface trying to unsubscribe people from this list, specifically 91.64.208.89 or ip5b40d059.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de as they are also known.
Perhaps some actual, reasoned discussion about the challenges raised by recent events related to the FSFE might be preferable to rather clumsy attempts to play with people's mailing list subscriptions.
Paul
I think it is trying to do that to me, I have already removed myself from the unofficial fellowship list. Now I am getting unauthorized attempts to remove me from the fsfe.org list
What exactly is going on here please. This is reflecting very very badly on the fsfe in general.
Daniel Pocock obtained a list of all subscribers to the discussion mailing list, and (presumably) ran a script that sends an unsubscribe request for all subscribers.
There isn't a lot that the FSFE can really do here, other than the legal venues that are already being pursued.
Kindly, Carmen