On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 11:30:32 +0100, Jan Wildeboer said:
Should the list-maintainer start thinking about using better filters?
Forget about it. The only way to solve this is to close the mailing (subscriber only post) and have someone to approve the other postings. We do this for the gnupg.org hosted mailing lists and this works quite well.
However, I have noticed more and more spam with faked From headers which will eventually lead to spam on the MLs again.
Shalom-Salam,
Werner
Am Mit, 2003-01-08 um 13.26 schrieb Werner Koch:
On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 11:30:32 +0100, Jan Wildeboer said:
Should the list-maintainer start thinking about using better filters?
Forget about it. The only way to solve this is to close the mailing (subscriber only post) and have someone to approve the other postings.
I've seen Spamassassin working quite well on other mailing lists. Have never used it myself, though.
However, spam level ist quite low on this list compared with others anyway.
Thanks,
Werner Koch wrote:
Forget about it. The only way to solve this is to close the mailing (subscriber only post) and have someone to approve the other postings. We do this for the gnupg.org hosted mailing lists and this works quite well.
A moderated list is not what I would suggest.
However, I have noticed more and more spam with faked From headers which will eventually lead to spam on the MLs again.
Using something along the line of SpamAssasin could at least reduce the SPAM. I would support some sort of SPAM scoring to be added to this list.
Jan
Forget about it. The only way to solve this is to close the mailing (subscriber only post) and have someone to approve the other postings. We do this for the gnupg.org hosted mailing lists and this works quite well.
I have to disagree with that, one other way is just to ignore the spam.
If you got some emails several times, this is an effect of some mail system migration difficulties. The admins are on the task.
|| On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:59:58 +0100 || Bernhard Reiter bernhard@intevation.de wrote:
br> If you got some emails several times, br> this is an effect of some mail system migration difficulties. br> The admins are on the task.
After GNU.ORG moved to mailman 2.1, the FSF Europe lists also moved now, some of the problems may have been caused by that.
Also the razor database (used by SpamAssassin) apparently had some problems that propagated into the mail system that way.
We apologize for the inconvenience, things should work fine again now.
Regards, Georg
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 08:39:25AM +0100, Jan Wildeboer wrote:
Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
I have to disagree with that, one other way is just to ignore the spam.
ANd I disagree with that.
7 mails to this lost today - 7 fo them spam. Time to act IMHO. It is my bandwidth that is abused.
We do have filters in place and they are constantly improved. They never can be perfect.
To use moderator for this list would have the downsides that the discussion would be slowed down considerably until we find _many_ volenteers because it is more effort.
So we have to decide between the two negative side effects. With the current filters in place I think that just throwing away the occasional spam works fine. If the spam rate raises more we need to think about more options.
I really don't like spam. Please help efforts like http://spam.abuse.net/ http://www.cauce.org/ http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html
to do something against spam on a more general level.
7 mails to this lost today - 7 fo them spam. Time to act IMHO. It is my bandwidth that is abused.
Bandwidth is abused with threads like this, I can count more messages that talk about spam than spam it self on mailing lists. It is almost like those Emacs vs. vi "discussions". The whole "it uses bandwidth" argument is silly anyway, if anything than spam is just annoying, nothing else.
Jan Wildeboer wrote:
7 mails to this lost today - 7 fo them spam. Time to act IMHO. It is my bandwidth that is abused.
Can someone please stop my message from being resent over and over again? I only send 1 copy, but according to the headers the list server has fun with resending it over and over again.
Jan
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 08:39:25AM +0100, Jan Wildeboer wrote:
Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
I have to disagree with that, one other way is just to ignore the spam.
ANd I disagree with that.
7 mails to this lost today - 7 fo them spam. Time to act IMHO. It is my bandwidth that is abused.
Hi,
Could you please stop spamming me, I received the above message FIVE times.
Thanks,