Just read the LWN article about Ximians Desktop2 http://lwn.net/Articles/34940/
You can learn that they install proprietary software like a pdf and a flash plug-in with their redcarpet service.
Most disturbing is that they changed the standard save format for Openoffice to be a propietory format, not helping http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html at all. This is even bad for the companies that desktop is targetted at and we should get the word out to this companies that using proprietary data format is really dangerous for them.
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 07:02:07PM +0200, Bernhard Reiter wrote:
Most disturbing is that they changed the standard save format for Openoffice to be a propietory format, not helping http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html at all.
Which proprietary format?
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 07:16:07PM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote:
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 07:02:07PM +0200, Bernhard Reiter wrote:
Most disturbing is that they changed the standard save format for Openoffice to be a propietory format, not helping http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html at all.
http://lwn.net/Articles/34940/ They've also tweaked OOo to save files in Microsoft Office formats by default, rather than the standard OOo formats.
Which proprietary format?
Picky today?
You are right in a way, Openoffice does save the file and can read it. Thus the subset of the microsoft formats that Openoffice can write and read is a format for that we have a Free Software implementation for. However microsoft still controls that formats, the subset will not be the same subset that the various products of microsoft support. And using a format like this is a big signal.
From a comment of mdekkers Those times that I do need to send out a file, I could either send it in OOo format (an OASIS XML standard) or in MS Format (non-standard binary). The ximian way of thinking about this seems to indicate that to them, "looking to use MS for the outside world" is vastly more important then what goes on within the firm. Moreover, sending out your data in MS Format perpetuates a bad habit. Sending it in OOo formats means I am furthering a standard, educate my peers, and send a strong message about standards adherance to the outside world.
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 07:29:30PM +0200, Bernhard Reiter wrote:
http://lwn.net/Articles/34940/ They've also tweaked OOo to save files in Microsoft Office formats by default, rather than the standard OOo formats.
Thanks for the excerpt. That URL requires subscriction.
Which proprietary format?
Picky today?
You are right in a way, Openoffice does save the file and can read it. Thus the subset of the microsoft formats that Openoffice can write and read is a format for that we have a Free Software implementation for. However microsoft still controls that formats, the subset will not be the same subset that the various products of microsoft support. And using a format like this is a big signal.
I couldn't understand without the details above. Thanks. :-)
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 07:32:38PM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote:
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 07:29:30PM +0200, Bernhard Reiter wrote:
http://lwn.net/Articles/34940/ They've also tweaked OOo to save files in Microsoft Office formats by default, rather than the standard OOo formats.
Thanks for the excerpt. That URL requires subscriction.
Ah, sorry, forgot about this.
Which proprietary format?
Picky today?
I missed adding a simly on this line. :)
You are right in a way, Openoffice does save the file and can read it. Thus the subset of the microsoft formats that Openoffice can write and read is a format for that we have a Free Software implementation for. However microsoft still controls that formats, the subset will not be the same subset that the various products of microsoft support. And using a format like this is a big signal.
I couldn't understand without the details above. Thanks. :-)