hi, my name is alexander braun and I did not contribute much to the discussions yet. I'm not sure if I understood the topic correctly, but I looked up the two patents.
though IANAL: is it possible to attack patent no. 5,265,261 due to terms of prior art? I only read the abstract but it seems to me it is a clear description of tcp/ip but with an initial date from 1993. and i don't see any difference to 5,437,013. both patents talk of :
""" A method and system for sending data from a first computer through a communications line to a second computer. The second computer includes a redirector, a transport, a data buffer, and an application program. The method and system provides the transport with a read request to send data from the first computer to the second computer, and with a receive network control block which directs the transport to store the next data it receives directly in the data buffer. The transport sends the read request to the first computer. The first computer stores the data identified by the read request in a data block without a header. The first computer transmits the data block over the communications line to the transport. Using information contained in the network control block, the transport stores the requested data without the header directly in the data buffer. """
in the abstract. Propabely I missed soemthing, but for my NO-Lawyer-ears this sounds like a common description of two computers in _any_ network.
Attacking these patents will not help to protect SAMBA as a whole, because M$ will insist on the IPR-stuff, but perhaps it might help delaying the battle. (because it's an american patent this might be an action of the FSF-hq)
Alexander Braun
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 05:35:59PM +0200, Alexandre Dulaunoy wrote:
http://www.advogato.org/article/453.html
Microsoft prohibits GPLed work via licensing of CIFS standards Posted 4 Apr 2002 by atai (Journeyer)
In its continuous battle against the GPL, Microsoft is trying a new tactic, a combination of patent claims and licensing of technical standards. In the "Royalty-Free CIFS Technical Reference License Agreement", Microsoft defines the GNU GPL as an "IPR Impairing License" and requires companies not to distribute their implementations of the CIFS specification "in any manner that would subject such Company Implementation to the terms of an IPR Impairing License." This attack is clearly aimed at the successful GPLed CIFS implementation, Samba.
The license defines
1.4 "IPR Impairing License" shall mean the GNU General Public License, the GNU Lesser/Library General Public License, and any license that requires in any instance that other software distributed with software subject to such license (a) be disclosed and distributed in source code form; (b) be licensed for purposes of making derivative works; or (c) be redistributable at no charge.
and
1.6 "Necessary Claims" shall mean those claims of a patent or patent application, including without limitation, United States Patents Nos. 5,265,261 and 5,437,013, which (a) are owned, controlled or sublicenseable by Microsoft without payment of a fee to an unaffiliated third party; and (b) are necessarily infringed by implementing the CIFS communication protocol as set forth in the Technical Reference, wherein a claim is necessarily infringed only when there are no technically reasonable alternatives to such infringement.
And it requires
3.3 IPR Impairing License Restrictions. For reasons, including without limitation, because (i) Company does not have the right to sublicense its rights to the Necessary Claims and (ii) Company's license rights hereunder to Microsoft's intellectual property are limited in scope, Company shall not distribute any Company Implementation in any manner that would subject such Company Implementation to the terms of an IPR Impairing License.
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