Discussion October 2017

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FSFE-in-2020: Who are we?
by Jonas Oberg 14 Oct '19

14 Oct '19

Hi everyone, I wanted to point you to this open internship position at the FSFE: https://fsfe.org/news/2017/news-20170811-01.en.html As you know, when the FSFE was founded, we put together a document describing our self conception. That was 16 years ago, and while I believe it to still be relevant, we'll be looking at making a new committment towards a revised organisational identity later this year. As a part of this work, we're looking for an intern to support the process for 3-6 months, working closely with me and others in the FSFE on analysing how the different groups within and outside of the FSFE perceive the organisation's identity, which will then work towards understanding how aligned they are, and supporting a renewed committment towards a self conception. We've already started the work, and will be looking for someone who could jump on board quite soon indeed, so don't wait to send this to someone you think might be interested! Work description and other application details on the page above. Sincerely, -- Jonas Öberg, Executive Director Free Software Foundation Europe | jonas(a)fsfe.org Your support enables our work (fsfe.org/join)

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Talos II (FSF RYF candidate)
by Timothy Pearson 16 Sep '18

16 Sep '18

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[UK] Information about the think tank Doteveryone
by Jonke Suhr 23 Mar '18

23 Mar '18

Hey everyone, I received a request to add Doteveryone [1] to our list of supporting organizations for Public Code, however I'm not sure if they are truly an NGO like the other organisations on our list. They are a registered charity, however I'm not sure what that entails so I wanted to ask if anyone who knows a lot about the UK could pitch in with some information (I CC'd Daniel so maybe he can forward this mail). After I asked Catherine this: > could you write a few words about how your organisation relates to Free Software and Open > Source? I'm unfamiliar with your organisation and not sure if will fit with our campaign. She replied: > Doteveryone is a thinktank fighting for a fairer internet. We want to ensure that people and society benefit from technology in a fair and responsible way. Our Responsible Tech work is around how technology development - in public and private sectors - can be done ethically and thoughtfully, with appropriate business models which reflect the values of those involved directly or otherwise. The Public Code declaration is perfectly aligned with this. As an example, last year we worked on technologies for end of life care [2] within the UK health system, and the importance of open source (and open standards) to avoid vendor lockin and exploitative pricing in software used in the NHS was part of our commissioning recommendations. [3] I'm concerned about their commitment to Free Software, should I still add them? Best regards, Jonke [1] https://doteveryone.org.uk/ [2] https://projects.doteveryone.org.uk/improvingcare/index.html [3] https://projects.doteveryone.org.uk/improvingcare/pages/commissioning.html

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FSFE launches a new campaign today: Public Money? Public Code!
by Erik Albers 14 Dec '17

14 Dec '17

Dear list, some news portals already picked it up and every FSFE supporter received a message about it in his inbox: today in the morning we launched a new campaign "Public Money Public Code". For the campaign we published an open letter [1] together with 31 organisations in which we call for lawmakers to make it mandatory to publish all publicly financed software under a Free Software licence. Among the initial signatories are CCC, EDRi, KDE, Open Knowledge Foundation Germany, openSUSE, Open Source Business Alliance, Open Source Initiative, The Document Foundation, Wikimedia Deutschland, as well as several others. Prominent support we also got from Edward Snowden, who says: "Right now, the blueprints for much of our most critical public infrastructure are simply unavailable to the public. By aligning public funding with a Free Software requirement -- "Free" referring to public code availability, not cost -- we can find and fix flaws before they are used to turn the lights out in the next hospital." You find the whole press-release here: https://fsfe.org/news/2017/news-20170913-01.en.html Now it is up to you! Please help and join us by signing this letter and ask your friends and colleagues to do likewise: https://publiccode.eu/#action Why is this important? Public institutions spend millions of euros every year for the development of new software for them. But the public sector's procurement choices play a significant role in determining which companies are allowed to compete and what software is supported with taxpayers' money. This means, that changing policies in public procurement will have a huge positive impact on the Free Software community. The open letter will be sent to candidates for the current German Parliament election and, during the coming months, until the 2019 EU parliament elections, to other representatives of the EU and EU member states. Since it is our public money, it should be our public code as well! This mail can and shall be copied and forwarded. Best regards, Erik [1] https://publiccode.eu/openletter/ -- No one shall ever be forced to use non-free software Erik Albers | Communication & Community Coordinator | FSFE OpenPGP Key-ID: 0x8639DC81 on keys.gnupg.net

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an FSFE hackathon?
by Daniel Pocock 24 Nov '17

24 Nov '17

Hi all, Has there ever been an FSFE hackathon? How would people feel about having such an event, or even a few small hackathons in parallel? Are there tasks that would be useful to FSFE and can be completed in one or two days, either by an individual or small teams? Would anybody have ideas about obtaining prizes, t-shirts or other support for hackathon participants? Hackathons can be particularly useful for potential Outreachy and GSoC interns to become familiar with the free software community and also for them to complete small pieces of code that help mentors identify which candidates to shortlist. Regards, Daniel

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Good examples where Free Software was used in development countries
by Bjoern Schiessle 11 Nov '17

11 Nov '17

Hi all, in October I will give a talk about how Free Software can help to export wealth and knowledge to development country in order to empower them. For this I'm looking for some good examples. In the past there was the "One Laptop per Child" initiative. But I don't know how active they are today, didn't heard a lot about it for a long time. Then I remember a example where a small region wanted to have programs translated to their native (traditional) language but because it was a tiny market proprietary software vendors refused to provide translation so they started using GNU/Linux where they could add the translation by them self. I'm no longer sure about the region, I think it was somewhere in Spain. Does someone here remember/know it? Do you have any other examples where Free Software was used in education or economy to grow a region/country? Thanks! Björn -- Björn Schießle <schiessle(a)fsfe.org> Free Software Foundation Europe (https://fsfe.org) Coordinator Germany www: http://www.schiessle.org gnupg/pgp key: 0x0x2378A753E2BF04F6 fingerprint: 244F CEB0 CB09 9524 B21F B896 2378 A753 E2BF 04F6

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FSFE 2020/ who are we?
by Kristi Progri 11 Nov '17

11 Nov '17

Hi everyone! Do you have the same perception of what FSFE is about as everybody else? We have found that most people actually have different perspectives and it is vital for us to research yours, so we understand where we all converge. The "FSFE in 2020" project is doing this and hopes to renew the organization's identity with the themes and values that matter most." If you feel like you have a connection with FSFE please read the blogpost <https://kristiprogri.com/2017/09/20/fsfe-identity-process/> and fill the survey, <https://survey.fsfe.org/index.php/297979?lang=en> we will contact you as soon as possible. For any question or comment, feel free to write me. Sincerely, Kristi

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Re: Berlin 2018, Workshop for a Next Generation Internet
by ng0 22 Oct '17

22 Oct '17

willi uebelherr transcribed 5.5K bytes: > > Dear friends, > > this is my translated answer in the FSFde and FreiFunk-talk list in german. I only have a short comment for now: 1. our initial invitation forgot to point out in a better way that we (GNUnet) did not come up with the term 'NGI'. 2. This is a GNUnet invitation. I have no idea why you keep pulling infotropique (all small letters) in, which is related but not GNUnet itself. > My proposal for the InterNet, "the Inter-connection of local net-works", I > also gave the people of the EU Surfey program "The Next Generation > Internet". Clearly, with such a proposal are these people, who are only > oriented in private/state structures and to hanle the telecommunication as a > capitalizable object, completely overstrained. > > We should always go back to the starting point. The Internet is only a > transport system for digital data in packat form. Everything else is based > on the application level. And to the transport system belongs the routing, > the navigation, and the error check. We want, that the packats arrive the > destination as we sent them. > > I can gladly give you my proposal, which is well-known in the FreiFunk > environment and in some FSF lists. Whether I can be in Berlin is still open. > > My basic approach is that people organize the telecommunication themselves > in their local communities, from small to large. Private and governmental > instances emerge from the outset. And only in this way is the > telecommunication from the monetary system, but this is imperative. > > My basic approach is that the people organize the telecommunication > themselves from their local communities, from small to large. Private and > governmental instances are not needed and are superfluous. And only on this > way is the telecommunication removable from the money system, a basic > necessity. > > with many greetings, willi > Asuncion, Paraguay > > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Betreff: Berlin 2018, Workshop for a Next Generation Internet > Datum: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 09:35:08 +0000 > Von: ng0 <ng0(a)infotropique.org> > An: discussion(a)lists.fsfe.org > > To whom it may concern beyond just being affected... > > the Internet is so broken, even the European Parliament passes > resolutions against it[0] while the European Commission fosters > the exploration of better solutions[1]. Some of us have been > working on a new Internet all along and continue to do so. > > We would like to invite you after 34C3, to Berlin, to discuss > and hack Next Generation Internet technologies. The kind that > actually replace parts of the existing Internet, not just adds > complexity to it. > > Start: Friday, 5th of January, 2018 > End: Sunday, 7th of January, 2018 > Location: Onionspace, Gottschedstraße 4, Aufgang 4, 13347 Berlin > > We're roughly a dozen coders, working on one such solution. > With a social interaction layer on top of GNUnet[2] - > called secushare[3] - we want to continue our efforts on > developing a basic communication technology for a better > democratic society in which people be free to communicate, > share information, participate in social discourse, and be > empowered to establish structures through digital means > to organize themselves and renew the idea of democracy. > A truly social network, resistant against manipulation > by DarkAds[4] and political dashboard optimization (see > Facebook's Malvinas affair[5]) is becoming a precondition > for reasonable election results. > > Some updates on what we have been doing lately: > > * Debugging of GNUnet sevices, e.g. multicast, psyc, social (all) > * UI design for secushare (all) > * Improved documentation (Drupal to Tex to Texinfo conversion and cleanup, > etc) (WIP by ng0) > * Improving the documentation (this involved Drupal to Tex to Texinfo > conversion and applying fixes and changes to it) (by ng0) > * Rust bindings for GNUnet (WIP by lurchi, t3sserakt) * Refactoring the > GNUnet scheduler for use with epoll / foreign language bindings (WIP by > lurchi, t3sserakt) > * Continuous integration and deployment infrastructure, with E2E tests > (WIP by dvn) > * Guix packaging (WIP by ng0) > * GNUnet integration into GuixSD (WIP by ng0) > * A new GNUnet website (coming up, moving away from Drupal) > At our New Year meeting, we'd like to talk about some > social, technical and infrastructural topics: * Where we are with > secushare, and what's next > * Our role in the European Commission's Next Generation Internet > * The use of a deteministic debugger to get the annoying bugs removed.[7] > * Better guidance for interested people to join the GNUnet community. > * AGPL Licensing - Will it save us? > * CI/CD for GNUnet, and adjacent projects > * Fixing gnunet-fs > * infotropique[8] OS - a GuixSD based OS interwoven[9] with GNUnet > > Again, we welcome you to Berlin. If you need a place to stay > just get in touch, we will find something cheap and hospitable. > For those already around on New Year's Eve, we want to party away the bad > vibes of 2017, embrace the shapes of things to come with good music, drinks, > food, and nice people. So if you are interested, you can already join us > earlier, or meet us in smaller groups during the whole week. > > 'Til then, Happy hacking! > > los secushare peoples. > xrs, dvn, lurchi, lynX, t3sserakt, ng0... > > > [0] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+TA+P8-TA-2… > [1] https://nlnet.net/NGI/ > [2] https://gnunet.org > [3] http://secushare.cheettyiapsyciew.onion or just http://secushare.org > [4] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/31/facebook-dark-ads-can-sw… > [5] https://theintercept.com/2015/04/02/gchq-argentina-falklands/ > [7] http://rr-project.org/ [8] https://www.infotropique.org > [9] https://gnunet.org/git/infotropique.git/tree/ROADMAP > > > > -- > ng0 > GnuPG: A88C8ADD129828D7EAC02E52E22F9BBFEE348588 > GnuPG: https://dist.ng0.infotropique.org/dist/keys/ > https://www.infotropique.org https://ng0.infotropique.org > > -- ng0 GnuPG: A88C8ADD129828D7EAC02E52E22F9BBFEE348588 GnuPG: https://dist.ng0.infotropique.org/dist/keys/ https://www.infotropique.org https://ng0.infotropique.org

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Berlin 2018, Workshop for a Next Generation Internet
by ng0 22 Oct '17

22 Oct '17

To whom it may concern beyond just being affected... the Internet is so broken, even the European Parliament passes resolutions against it[0] while the European Commission fosters the exploration of better solutions[1]. Some of us have been working on a new Internet all along and continue to do so. We would like to invite you after 34C3, to Berlin, to discuss and hack Next Generation Internet technologies. The kind that actually replace parts of the existing Internet, not just adds complexity to it. Start: Friday, 5th of January, 2018 End: Sunday, 7th of January, 2018 Location: Onionspace, Gottschedstraße 4, Aufgang 4, 13347 Berlin We're roughly a dozen coders, working on one such solution. With a social interaction layer on top of GNUnet[2] - called secushare[3] - we want to continue our efforts on developing a basic communication technology for a better democratic society in which people be free to communicate, share information, participate in social discourse, and be empowered to establish structures through digital means to organize themselves and renew the idea of democracy. A truly social network, resistant against manipulation by DarkAds[4] and political dashboard optimization (see Facebook's Malvinas affair[5]) is becoming a precondition for reasonable election results. Some updates on what we have been doing lately: * Debugging of GNUnet sevices, e.g. multicast, psyc, social (all) * UI design for secushare (all) * Improved documentation (Drupal to Tex to Texinfo conversion and cleanup, etc) (WIP by ng0) * Improving the documentation (this involved Drupal to Tex to Texinfo conversion and applying fixes and changes to it) (by ng0) * Rust bindings for GNUnet (WIP by lurchi, t3sserakt) * Refactoring the GNUnet scheduler for use with epoll / foreign language bindings (WIP by lurchi, t3sserakt) * Continuous integration and deployment infrastructure, with E2E tests (WIP by dvn) * Guix packaging (WIP by ng0) * GNUnet integration into GuixSD (WIP by ng0) * A new GNUnet website (coming up, moving away from Drupal) At our New Year meeting, we'd like to talk about some social, technical and infrastructural topics: * Where we are with secushare, and what's next * Our role in the European Commission's Next Generation Internet * The use of a deteministic debugger to get the annoying bugs removed.[7] * Better guidance for interested people to join the GNUnet community. * AGPL Licensing - Will it save us? * CI/CD for GNUnet, and adjacent projects * Fixing gnunet-fs * infotropique[8] OS - a GuixSD based OS interwoven[9] with GNUnet Again, we welcome you to Berlin. If you need a place to stay just get in touch, we will find something cheap and hospitable. For those already around on New Year's Eve, we want to party away the bad vibes of 2017, embrace the shapes of things to come with good music, drinks, food, and nice people. So if you are interested, you can already join us earlier, or meet us in smaller groups during the whole week. 'Til then, Happy hacking! los secushare peoples. xrs, dvn, lurchi, lynX, t3sserakt, ng0... [0] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+TA+P8-TA-2… [1] https://nlnet.net/NGI/ [2] https://gnunet.org [3] http://secushare.cheettyiapsyciew.onion or just http://secushare.org [4] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/31/facebook-dark-ads-can-sw… [5] https://theintercept.com/2015/04/02/gchq-argentina-falklands/ [7] http://rr-project.org/ [8] https://www.infotropique.org [9] https://gnunet.org/git/infotropique.git/tree/ROADMAP -- ng0 GnuPG: A88C8ADD129828D7EAC02E52E22F9BBFEE348588 GnuPG: https://dist.ng0.infotropique.org/dist/keys/ https://www.infotropique.org https://ng0.infotropique.org

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Free software glorifying music - libretto wanted
by Benjamin Wand 18 Oct '17

18 Oct '17

Hey! At SHA we had a choir that performed a choir version of the Free Software Song that I had arranged [1] and that was a lot of fun but of course, as a nerd (= person who pursues complex things with great professional sincerity), I keep looking for ways to improve. I’d like to do a choir again at 34C3, with a piece that is more suitable to unfold the magic that can unfold when singing with a choir because the singers can listen to each other, and that it is also more interesting musically. (The problem with The Free Software Song is the speed and the odd time signature, all I could do when conducting was trying to prevent fuck-up.) Now I’m looking for a libretto (= song text). Since it is about believe (in a better world with free software or something like that), I’m considering it something like church music and would write accordingly solemnly. So please, if someone has a text for me, that would be great. Thanks! Benjamin 1 https://media.ccc.de/v/SHA2017-348-lightning_talks_day_4#video&t=2705

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