Discussion February 2012

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Your help until 29th January for the Standards Quartet
by Matthias Kirschner 16 Feb '12

16 Feb '12

Hey everybody, we are currently organising the next Document Freedom Day on March 28th and therefore we wanted to produce a card game, called "Standards Quartet" (a card game that is often played by little children usually not comparing different facts about Open Standards but about cars, dinosaurs, etc.). For this we need your help to collect all the information that we need, maybe you could help us out: Please have a look at this link: https://dfd.etherpad.fsfe.org/10 and fill in as many facts as you know. Basically we need: 32 cards, 4 groups (each consisting of 8 different cards) and categories to compare those cards: Examples for the groups: - Text - Video/Audio - Picture - Network Examples for the categories: - Amount of words of the current standards - Amount of implementations - Exists since year XY - Freedom level? (Give points from our Open Standard Definition) - Uses XY other open standards - Amount of money to lobby the standards If you have any other ideas for groups or categories, please add them to the list. (You can also include proprietary standards, depending on how many Open Standards we find we will decide how exactely to structure it.) We will than design the cards, and print them. Thanks for your help! Matthias -- Matthias Kirschner - FSFE - Fellowship Coordinator, German Coordinator FSFE, Linienstr. 141, 10115 Berlin, t +49-30-27595290 +49-1577-1780003 Free Software is important to you? Join today! (fsfe.org/join) Weblog (blogs.fsfe.org/mk) - Contact (fsfe.org/about/kirschner)

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Laptop running 100% Free Software (was: A pan-European DFD activity proposal)
by Fabian Keil 16 Feb '12

16 Feb '12

"Jelle Hermsen" <jelle(a)fsfe.org> wrote (quoting adjusted): > On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 14:40:12 +0100, discussion-bounces(a)fsfeurope.org > wrote: > > * judith(a)movingyouth.eu <judith(a)movingyouth.eu> [2012-02-08 14:18:55 > > +0100]: > > > > > What about about giving to the winner a laptop or desktop with > > > current freedom tools that one use in his day-today life - a freedom > > > box, Free Software social networks, browser and OS? > > > > This kind of hardware is a bit difficult for FSFE as a prize. Most of > > the hardware relies on non-free drivers, and we would have to find > > hardware that does not depend on that. I do not want to give something > > to a winner, which forces him to use non-free software. > You could give away Lemote Yeeloong as a prize, they are running 100% > Free Software, including the bios. Quoting http://www.lemote.com/en/products/Notebook/2010/0310/112.html: | 1) The world's first fully free software. All system source | files(BIOS, kernel, drivers etc.) are free software, no close | firmware needed. Given that the BIOS is the only firmware that is explicitly mentioned to be free software, I assume "no close firmware needed" actually means "no non-free firmware except the pre-installed one". If that's the case, the system might satisfy the "no non-free drivers" requirement, but it wouldn't really be "running 100% Free Software". Of course the other firmware could be covered by the "etc.", but considering the specifications listed on the same URL that seems rather unlikely to me. Fabian

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Fellowship quotes
by Heiki "Repentinus" Ojasild 15 Feb '12

15 Feb '12

Dear Fellows subscribed to this list, As you ought to know, FSFE has recently added donor quotes to its front page. (If you have not seen those quotes yet, take a look at <https://fsfe.org/index.html>.) These quotes are good reasons to support the Foundation. However, they are geared a bit towards entrepreneurs. Entrepreneurs usually have money; however, they do not have time. Thus, the quotes contain good reasons for entrepreneurs to support Free Software financially. Nevertheless, it would be useful to let people who have more time or who do not have entrepreneurial tendencies know why they should support Free Software and the Foundation. Thus, we are, as of now, collecting quotes from our Fellows on what it means to be a Fellow, why they became Fellows, what part has the Fellowship played in their life, et cetera. The quotes should not be too long and they should be accompanied by the Fellow's picture. I cannot guarantee we will use all the quotes, but I am sure we will use some. Thus, by sending in a quote and a picture you obviously consent to whatever use the FSFE is going to put those quotes to. :-) As the quotes (or some of them) are going to be published anyway, you ought to send in your quotes and pictures as replies to this very e-mail. When we will have gathered enough and we will have decided where exactly to display them, we will make some kind of a selection and everyone will have an opportunity to see the finest experiences, reasons, et cetera. To begin with, here is my very own quote: "I honestly do not know why I joined the Fellowship. However, the @fsfe.org e-mail alias is simply great and you won't find a finer company to hack with on the Earth; thus, I recommend joining us anyway, regardless of whether you are into translating, coding, design, law or anything else even remotely connected with Free Software." Now, I won't attach a picture, as mine can be easily found on the Fellowship Interviews blog; however, you should attach a one. Furthermore, as it would get boring if everyone simply repeated what a great Fellowship we have, you should try to put in a bit more of your personality. It would be great if the quotes gave an overview of what we Fellows (and other volunteers) do, why we do the things we do, and who we are. As you probably get what we want, just send in your quotes. And do not worry if you do not know what we are looking for: It would be more beneficial to send in your quote anyway. Faithfully, -- Heiki "Repentinus" Ojasild <repentinus(a)fsfe.org> <https://wiki.fsfe.org/Fellows/repentinus> <http://blogs.fsfe.org/repentinus/>

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Re: A pan-European DFD activity proposal
by Heiki "Repentinus" Ojasild 15 Feb '12

15 Feb '12

On 14 February 2012 13:53, Jelle Hermsen <jelle(a)fsfe.org> wrote: > Hi, > Unfortunately I didn't get any response from Tekmote. I take it they're not interested, although a reply from them would have been nice. No problem. I am starting to believe that we should postpone this until next year and do it right. If we wanted to, it would be possible to rush it through, but I am of the opinion that we simply would not get the results we are looking for, and it would be more beneficial to pick the idea up in December 2012 to organize a grandiose competition. Regards, -- Heiki "Repentinus" Ojasild <repentinus(a)fsfe.org> <https://wiki.fsfe.org/Fellows/repentinus> <http://blogs.fsfe.org/repentinus/>

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Re: A pan-European DFD activity proposal
by Matthias Kirschner 15 Feb '12

15 Feb '12

* Jelle Hermsen <jelle(a)fsfe.org> [2012-02-14 21:47:47 +0100]: > I'm not debating what would actually be the best wording, just the > most common and therefore easiest to understand. Yes, it is quite common today, but it also is the easiest to _mis_understand. Regards, Matthias -- Matthias Kirschner - FSFE - Fellowship Coordinator, German Coordinator FSFE, Linienstr. 141, 10115 Berlin, t +49-30-27595290 +49-1577-1780003 Free Software is important to you? Join today! (fsfe.org/join) Weblog (blogs.fsfe.org/mk) - Contact (fsfe.org/about/kirschner)

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Re: A pan-European DFD activity proposal
by Torsten Grote 14 Feb '12

14 Feb '12

On Tuesday 14 February 2012 21:10:47 Jelle Hermsen wrote: > Regarding the license at the bottom I would suggest replacing "laxer" with > "more permissive". I think that's the common way to describe a more > liberal license. I disagree. Calling it "more permissive" might lead to the conclusion that copyleft licenses are not giving you enough permissions while instead they just require you to pass on the freedoms that you received. Torsten

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Re: A pan-European DFD activity proposal
by Matthias Kirschner 14 Feb '12

14 Feb '12

* Jelle Hermsen <jelle(a)fsfe.org> [2012-02-08 15:53:10 +0100]: > You could give away Lemote Yeeloong as a prize, they are running 100% > Free Software, including the bios. I know tekmote.nl imports them in > the Netherlands. If you have contacts to them, you can ask them if they would give that to us as a prize or how much it would cost us. Regards, Matthias -- Matthias Kirschner - FSFE - Fellowship Coordinator, German Coordinator FSFE, Linienstr. 141, 10115 Berlin, t +49-30-27595290 +49-1577-1780003 Free Software is important to you? Join today! (fsfe.org/join) Weblog (blogs.fsfe.org/mk) - Contact (fsfe.org/about/kirschner)

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Re: A pan-European DFD activity proposal
by judith＠movingyouth.eu 09 Feb '12

09 Feb '12

I do not want to give something to a winner, which forces him to use non-free software. You are right. What about putting his definition on the preface or the spine of a book about Free Sofware history and philosophy? Judith Lukoki +33 (0)6 15 94 50 23 http://www.movingyouth.eu http://blog.ethicalsocialnetwork.org

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Ask celebraties for Document Freedom Day quotes
by Matthias Kirschner 07 Feb '12

07 Feb '12

Hi there, as you have seen we got a quote from Stephen Fry for Document Freedom Day. That's really cool! But we should we stop with that? Why shouldn't we be able to get more cool quotes. So who of you will be able to get another cool quote from a celebraty? Whoever is able to get Arnold Schwarzenegger saying "Your file 'll be back. So better make sure to use Open Standards!"? will be my personel hero for the next year!! So, if you have any ideas, please contact them, explain them briefly what Open Standards are and ask them for a quote. Believe me, it can be fun finding a hook to explain Open Standards to different people. Regards, Matthias -- Matthias Kirschner - FSFE - Fellowship Coordinator, German Coordinator FSFE, Linienstr. 141, 10115 Berlin, t +49-30-27595290 +49-1577-1780003 Free Software is important to you? Join today! (fsfe.org/join) Weblog (blogs.fsfe.org/mk) - Contact (fsfe.org/about/kirschner)

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"I love Free Software" Day und Veranstaltung in Essen
by Erik Albers 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear Follower, sorry but the following mail is in German only because it is about an event in Germany during the "I love Free Software" Day. Obviously this event might not be of interest for you if you are not living in Germany. But you are welcome ton join our online-campaign if you have a look at ilovefs.org +++ beginning of the message: +++ Liebe Fellows und Freunde, wie ihr wahrscheinlich wisst, ruft die Free Software Foundation Europe (http://www.fsfe.org) jährlich alle Unterstützer Freier Software dazu auf, den Valentinstag zu nutzen um seine Liebe für Freie Software auszudrücken und so gemeinsam einen "I love Free Software"-Day zu zelebrieren. Dazu gibt es wieder eine Mitmach-Kampagne, für die ihr Material und Ideen auf ilovefs.org findet. Dieses Jahr wird es außerdem erstmalig auch eine "I love Free Software"-Veranstaltung im Unperfekthaus geben (http://unperfekthaus.de), ein Künstlerdorf in der Innenstadt Essens. Im Unperfekthaus können Künstler, Gründer und Gruppen kostenlos Räume, Technik, Bühnen uvm. bekommen. Es gibt hier CoWorking Plätze und eine Ladengemeinschaft, außerdem steht das Haus Besuchern offen. Der Veranstaltungsort wurde ausgesucht, weil die offene Atmosphäre zum Feiern einlädt und das große Angebot an Erlebnismöglichkeiten viel Spaß für jedermann verspricht. Die Veranstaltung soll ein Vergnügen für die ganze Familie - von klein bis groß - ermöglichen. Gleichzeitig möchten wir - wie der Name es vermuten lässt - auch den Austausch und Input zu und über Freie Software fördern. Workshops und Einführungskurse werden deshalb auf dem Programm stehen, darunter Einführungskurse in GNU/Linux, Projektvorstellung von netzwerkbildung.net, Musikproduktion mit Linux, funktionierende QR-Codes selber sprayen usw. Abends gibt es ein Live-Konzert mit IntroVagant, KIT, /angstalt/ und fukked-up. Alle weiteren Informationen findet ihr auf der Veranstaltungsseite: http://fsfe.org/campaigns/ilovefs/2012/unperfekthaus.en.html Um zu der Veranstaltung vorzudringen, muss man den handelsüblichen Eintritt für das Unperfekthaus bezahlen. Dafür hat man aber auch vollen Zugang zu allen Annehmlichkeiten, die das Unperfekthaus sonst so bietet. Die FSFE plant mit dieser Veranstaltung möglichst viele Anwender, Entwickler und Unterstützer Freier Software zusammenzubringen. Fühlt euch alle ganz herzlich eingeladen und weist eure Umwelt auf diese Veranstaltung hin. Wem gar ein Thema vorschwebt, über das er sich austauschen möchte oder eine Software, die er auf der Veranstaltung vorstellen möchte, der kann sich noch bei fellowship(a)fsfeurope.org melden - jeder Input ist willkommen. Wir freuen uns natürlich auch sehr wenn ihr unsere Veranstaltung oder eure Teilnahme über Facebook, Twitter, Identi.ca oder sonstigen Social-Media-Kanälen ankündigt. Dabei gibt es auch etwas zu gewinnen: Die FSFE verlost zwei Schlafplätze vom 14. auf den 15. Februar im Unperfekthaus in einer 16er WG - zusammen mit den auftretenden Bands und den Veranstaltern der FSFE. Wer kommen möchte und sein kommen über eine beliebige Social-Media-Plattform mit dem Tag #ilovefs ankündigt, der kann einen der beiden Schlafplätze gewinnen. Schickt dazu einfach eine Mail an fellowship(a)fsfeurope.org mit einem Link zu eurer Ankündigung. Die Gewinner werden unter allen Einsendern verlost. Mit den besten Grüßen, Erik - -- Erik Albers [ ] Free Software Foundation Europe [ ][ ][ ] Policy Team [ ] Your donation powers our work! [http://fsfe.org/donate/] Contact me in < Deutsch/English/Español > via: Mail eal(a)fsfe.org Jabber eal(a)jabber.fsfe.org Phone +49-30-27595290 Free Software Foundation Europe e.V. is a German Verein registered at the Registergericht Hamburg (VR 17030). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPKqRmAAoJEBho/C6GOdyBBl4QAJbGAmWkyPRD/4MwHbk/0OKD 2GQQUVz41QhIXD0ZSlU3mxBSlj2w04VI0cc5cROl196SDr282RJ5bpZT1yPhfQUH NE8kuz+j+mzvC9asTLiaKoN6wTC67yJhl2lv4De7D3ku7G+4HYKeRVakWK7QFJiY U7GvzUEMKcrYohUFcBgUm9ZPkoeBBZLO8cPI0wK6vZCSWYEcqJ2ZeVmKP1n0Qj6A 4nsPcq76WdDgxSR6nsTBsjP1EHVo4kkmNjTBQAxDzzJDPg2tZbTCWlNfaPg4X0Iz 0MPgdXqJ8Z+MyTsNwWo8g6Zp6zXKh2K1UL2z3ryp4hor/Uu6nc+DJ7/6sUoaMXlx qujZuJISyeWoUiLxtViV9ZAjAaaey+l9Hq+VKu8z8iwHcvqNGCzafHSIIX4a45hj nLVveccR1b9Gp7Wo3D4z+tKsbZ9aJE6I/wq//Aw13GzmD225xWArEWt7QeHzUOaa GwE5Q4AzAUmrclT8YTdxjR9ThQF4tJk5+0peIAq2b2uIG9EfN5POB1HU5ANpjZw2 51YqKx7sjkOvVWk6oJTEQHV4TeOAQ2HBvYp8/ssN5tw1cjSQBx7ACgQxNi5czVHF CBVG3+pDPzRz02HU0RxZI0JLed7fHeXB7T6lxhktxkG+oJjwpWAoTJNz9dgFzZdL Wb8VHnnHOxxOBuvc5z8d =2sii -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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