Discussion December 2004

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I am offline until December 30, Was [Re: Mail Delivery (failure fcouchet@april.org)]
by Frederic Couchet 26 Dec '04

26 Dec '04

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20 Dec '04

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Spotting GPL violations
by Philip Webster 12 Dec '04

12 Dec '04

Hi, A piece of software has come to my attention that may be violating the GPL. Details are as follows: - The software is an interface (GUI, intermediary routines) between a proprietary operating system and the Free printing system GIMP-Print. - The company distributing the software is not offering source code, and has not licensed the derivative work under the GPL. - The software can only be downloaded after a 'donation' is received to unlock the download page. - The software is downloaded as a complete package which includes both proprietary and GPL-licensed code. The interface itself is useless without GIMP-Print and was written specifically for it, rather than as an abstract printer interface and GUI. It is also possible to download the Free parts separately. This sounds a LOT like a GPL violation, but I'd be interested to hear what others' first impressions are. I'll post some links to more detailed evidence once the initial batch of responses come in... Regards, Phil

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10 Dec '04

Hi folks, is it allowed to make changes in the GPL down the GPL-Copyright preamble in a licence-file? Isn't it so, that the GPL guarantees us, that all under this preamble has to be free for all? Now I want to change the properties so, that anyone who wants to copy, distribute oder sell my software, has to ask me before. Can I do so, or is this not allowed by GPL? GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE Version 2, June 1991 Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 675 Mass Ave, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA. Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed. Preamble The licenses for most software are designed to take away your freedom to share and change it. By contrast, the GNU General Public License is intended to guarantee your freedom to share and change free software--to make sure the software is free for all its users. -- NEU +++ DSL Komplett von GMX +++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl GMX DSL-Netzanschluss + Tarif zum superg�nstigen Komplett-Preis!

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Re: Copyright of GPL / Canges Allowed?
by Axel Schulz 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

Hi! This is not allowed, of course. Use another license instead. Besides, I think you are looking for a non-free license, arent't you? A license is some kind of refernce where everyone can look up the terms of conditions the license imposes to the license-taker. It is a legal document (I am not a lawyer!). You cannot change this document because you do not have the permissions. If you do so, you are not allowed to call it GNU/GPL anymore. It is like change the constitution until it fits your needs/wishes. Well, aou are free to do it. But it has no legal consequences/impact, it is just your own "self-made-constitution". However, what you intend to do with the GPL is not possible/allowed! cheers, Axel "Kein Ende" schrieb am 10.12.04 13:09:57: > > Hi folks, > > is it allowed to make changes in the GPL down the GPL-Copyright preamble in > a licence-file? > > Isn't it so, that the GPL guarantees us, that all under this preamble has to > be free for all? > > Now I want to change the properties so, that anyone who wants to copy, > distribute oder sell my software, has to ask me before. > > Can I do so, or is this not allowed by GPL? > > GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE > > > Version 2, June 1991 > Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 675 Mass Ave, > Cambridge, MA 02139, USA. Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute > verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed. > > Preamble > The licenses for most software are designed to take away your freedom to > share and change it. By contrast, the GNU General Public License is intended > to guarantee your freedom to share and change free software--to make sure > the software is free for all its users. > > -- > NEU +++ DSL Komplett von GMX +++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl > GMX DSL-Netzanschluss + Tarif zum supergünstigen Komplett-Preis! > _______________________________________________ > Discussion mailing list > Discussion(a)fsfeurope.org > https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion

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xtcommerce.com and his shop no. 3
by Kein Ende 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

hi folks, before a few days i thought, that all software licenced under gnu/gpl is free. oscommerce is free xt-commerce is free, in 2nd release. the 3rd release is only available, if you pay for support, to get a login to the sponsor-area. is this gnu/gpl conform? *sorry 4 my english :-) -- NEU +++ DSL Komplett von GMX +++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl GMX DSL-Netzanschluss + Tarif zum superg�nstigen Komplett-Preis!

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FSF Europe Newsletter
by FSF Europe 05 Dec '04

05 Dec '04

1. FSFE stands firm in Microsoft case 2. FSFE gains observer status at the WIPO 3. Intensifying world wide co-operation 4. Two FSFE members attending SFScon 5. Other public appearances 1. FSFE stands firm in Microsoft case Microsoft has steadily been soliciting supporters of the European Commission antitrust case to withdraw their support for the Commission by offering a series of financial settlements. The agreement with Sun Microsystems to withdraw has now been joined by financial settlements with Novell and the CCIA, after which they also agreed to withdraw from the case. In light of these developments, the FSFE reaffirms its determination to support the European Commission in the landmark antitrust case, in which a decision is expected soon. This leaves much of the European Commission case depending on the independence and reliability of FSFE, but it also increments the personal and financial resources the FSFE will have to spend. Everybody can help to strengthen FSFE's position against Microsoft with a donation. http://www.fsfeurope.org/projects/ms-vs-eu/ http://www.fsfeurope.org/help/paypal.en.html 2. FSFE gains observer status at the WIPO The Free Software Foundation Europe is now officially accredited as observer at the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO), where it will be working along with others to question the ideology that more monopolisation of knowledge is always good. As announced in the October WIWO statement, FSFE will be working to change WIPO towards a "World Intellectual Wealth Organisation." http://www.fsfeurope.org/projects/wipo/ 3. Intensifying world wide co-operation Earlier last month, Georg Greve contributed a keynote to the Congresso Internacional de Software Livre (CONISLI) in Sao Paulo, Brazil. He also used the opportunity to increase communication with the vibrant Brazilian Free Software community and visit several Telecentros in Sao Paulo. The Telecentro movement is currently the largest digital inclusion project in the world and a prime example how Free Software can sustainably and directly empower people. 4. Two FSFE members attending SFScon The LUG Bozen/Bolzano/Bulsan decided to enrich their traditional LinuxDay with the first South Tyrol Free Software Conference (SFScon). This event also addressed people outside the usual target group, for example with a meeting of Wikipedia authors. The FSFE supported this conference with three speeches: Werner Koch talked about "privacy and encryption techniques", and Alessandro Rubini presented "Free Software in teaching" and gave an "Introduction to kernel programming". 5. Other public appearances On 5 November, a seminar on Free Software was organised in Västerås by the local LUG, the Swedish Linux Association and the Department of Computer Science and Engineering at Mälardalen University. Jonas Öberg gave an introduction about the four freedoms that make software free. At a local event in Genova on 11 November, Alessandro Rubini held a speech about the development process of Free Software. He explained that while collaborative development is good, smaller projects often cannot build up a large community. Still, as long as the software is free, the projects remain useful in their niche problem space even years after development stopped. Several schools participated in the event, and the final discussion brought in the topic of Free Software in education and the problem of software patents. You can find a list of all FSF Europe newsletters on http://www.fsfeurope.org/news/newsletter.en.html

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Searching model contract for releasing Free Software
by Achim D. Brucker 02 Dec '04

02 Dec '04

Hi, I'm writing software as employe of an Swiss university and therefore the university owns the right of use. Luckily the university is encouraging the publication of Free Software and thus I'm allowed to release my software under a Free Software license if my professor agrees with this (which he will). The only information I could get from the patent and legal office of my university was that any informal document signed by my professor will be ok. But instead of writing such a document on my own (I'm a computer scientist and not a lawyer) I would prefer to have some model contract that I could adopt. Has anyone seen such a contract (preferable in German or English), e.g. a document where the employer transfers is right to use back to the employee for releasing the software as Free Software? The best I found, was the Fiduciary Licence Agreement http://www.fsfeurope.org/projects/fla/fla.en.html . Any other hints or tips? Achim

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