Discussion October 2004

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Re: Commercial use of font with GPL licence
by Lars 28 Oct '04

28 Oct '04

Hi, thank you everybody for you interesting comments. I agree with MJ Ray that using this font is more "mere aggeregation" than linking. The interested company wants to install the font in the OS like any other font. So the font and the product of the company are 2 unrelated works (thanks Simo). Sam: The ttf file itself is the source in this case. I never had anything else. So I think the company is allowed to give away the font with their product if they include a copy of the license...? Thanks Lars Naber

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Commercial use of font with GPL licence
by Lars 28 Oct '04

28 Oct '04

Hello, in IRC I got the hint to ask my questions here. Sorry for my english. I published a true type font under GPL license. You can find it at http://fixedsys.moviecorner.de Today I got an email saying (free translation): > "we want to use your font (f.e. because of the euro sign) > in our pps system. Because of the GPL this is not allowed > for us without payment." I don't understand what his problem is and I don't see problems with using the font in their system if they give a text file with the GPL license with it and install the font on the customer's system. May this company take the font and give it away to customers if the GPL is included and software itself makes use of the font via the OS? The font is not included in the software then, it is not linked. It's just installed as the customer would have downloaded it from my website. Thanks in advance for your answers, Lars Naber

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Re: Commercial use of font with GPL licence
by Lars 28 Oct '04

28 Oct '04

Hi NSK, many thanks for your answer. > According to the best of my partial knowledge, GPL has some restrictions when > it comes to linking with non-Free programs. I read about this and the LGPL. The font would be delivered with the non-GPL-software and and would be installed in the font folder. The customer would be able to do it self too: Download and install the font in the system. So I wonder if LGPL is necessary here because the font is IMHO not linked... it's just delivered with the software. Or do I misunderstand "linking"? Thanks again, Lars Naber

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looking for a research grant/scholarship
by Axel Schulz 26 Oct '04

26 Oct '04

Hello list members, I am not sure if this is an appropriate enquiry to this list but I am desperately looking for a research grant for my PhD studies at the CCSR (http://www.ccsr.cse.dmu.ac.uk/). I am an ethicist and I intend to do deal with the "free software issue" in my thesis. Does anyone of you know where I can apply for money? I would be grateful for any hint. I am aware of the 6th Framework Programme of the EU Commission. But I suppose there are more programmes/possibilities. Well, as I said, I would be really grateful for any help! Thank you so much in advance! best regards, Axel axel(a)schulz.ph

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Europe IST funding (1900 million euros) discriminates free software!
by Marcel Ruff 25 Oct '04

25 Oct '04

Hi, 1. First a small introduction to Europe Information Society Fund (IST): IST 2004 will address European policies, strategies and research activities in all areas of the Information Society. There is a IST conference at 15-17 November 2004 in The Hague, Netherlands this is sort of a kick off meeting. What i know of, Call 4 and Call 5 have a funding volume of 1900 Million Euro, probably ALL European based information technology funding is bundled in this IST program. IST goals: http://europa.eu.int/information_society/research/index_en.htm The Hague IST conference details: http://europa.eu.int/information_society/istevent/2004/index_en.htm 2. Who can get funding? Research institutes get up to 100% sponsoring, companies get up to 50%, free software gets 0% We have started a homepage, forum and Wiki page to changes this! See http://ospro.sf.net One small example: The economical impact of free/open software on economy goes to billions of Euro. The efficiency (financial input versus powerful output) of free software is very high compared to many projects of research institutions or company projects. Imagine how 5 % of the IST fund (95 Million Euro) could empower the European free/open source community: Many man years of efficient free software development. 3. Current state We have started a session #513 on the IST The Hague event, to change the habit of IST to not sponsor free/open source directly (or for example via organizations like fseurope.org). See: http://europa.eu.int/information_society/istevent/2004/cf/viewevent.cfm?eve… http://europa.eu.int/information_society/istevent/2004/cf/vieweventdetail.c… As you can see at the first link, session #513 has disappeared, there is a gap between #512 and #514! !!! It was censored by IST !!! But - with the second link you can circumvent the censorship and view the original session :-) 4. What can you do? a) Subscribe to the censored session #513 with the above link! Any active or passive subscription helps us to force IST to take back the censorship. Please subscribe now! The IST money is public money, our money! b) Discuss your opinion on Wiki at http://ospro.sf.net Thanks and see you in The Hague, Marcel Ruff Phone: 07551 309371 -- http://www.xmlBlaster.org

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Website Engine - Footer Note
by Roland Häder 23 Oct '04

23 Oct '04

Hello, I'm developing a website's engine which is based on PHP4 and MySQL which I have licensed under the GNU GPL Version 2. I currently use this note: ----- snip: ----- Foobar-Program v1.2.3 © 2003 - 2004 by MyDomain.org. All Rights Reserved. Website engine's code is © copyleft by Foobar. Foobar is a free software released under the GNU GPL v2 ----- snap: ----- Is this fine?Or shall I better rewrite the first line to my name and not to my domain? Roland

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The Hague: Open Standards and Libre Software
by Jan-Oliver Wagner 21 Oct '04

21 Oct '04

Hi, will the FSFE participate in this conference? http://flosspols.org/conf/ Actually it seems to be a sequence of conferences where Free Software is paid quite some attention. Speaker list show noone of FSFE so far ... Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/

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WIWO Slashdot story; donations
by NSK 20 Oct '04

20 Oct '04

Hi, A story about WIWO that I submitted to Slashdot.org was published on Oct19. You can have a look at http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/19/174240 Do you accept anonymous donations for WIWO, and how can people donate? -- NSK Admin of http://portal.wikinerds.org Project Manager of http://www.nerdypc.org Project Manager of http://www.adapedia.org Project Manager of http://maatworks.wikinerds.org

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Creative Commons
by NSK 18 Oct '04

18 Oct '04

Hi, I would like to know the FSF/FSFE's position on Creative Commons ( http://www.creativecommons.org ) and how the CC-by-sa 2.0 license (which is copyleft) compares with GFDL 1.2 for text works. I know GFDL and CC-by-sa are not compatible, but I am interested to know the differences and similarities of these licenses (for books/articles and software) according to your views. I am aware that with GFDL each distributor who distributes many copies of a GFDL document must also distribute the GFDL license. With CC, such action is not necessary if the distributer just gives an Internet link to the CC homepage. I think that the "relaxed" terms of CC on the license distribution could be a problem if, for example, the CC website goes down, but I also think that sometimes it might be difficult for someone to distribute the gfdl if, for example, he/she just wants to distribute a very short gfdl article. In addition, I see that some people don't like the idea of having to keep a changelog as gfdl requires, and they seem to prefer the more lightweight cc. In my site (a wiki) I am about to allow per-page copyright terms so that each author can decide between gfdl and cc. (only the sharealike copyleft version). However I would like to know FSF's views on CC before proceeding to allowing more widespread use of CC. Does CC (the copyleft version) effectively protect works released under it? I would like to ask, also, whether a document licensed under CC-by 2.0 (CreativeCommons Attribution license 2.0) can be incorporated in a GFDL text (provided that proper attribution will be included in the text). Finally, I wish to know whether you are considering to provide some form of compatibility between CC and GFDL in the future (for example with a gfdl2 license)? Thanks, -- NSK Personal page at http://nsk.wikinerds.org Admin of http://portal.wikinerds.org Project Manager of http://www.nerdypc.org Project Manager of http://www.adapedia.org Project Manager of http://maatworks.wikinerds.org

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Is this the appropiate list?
by Xavier Amatriain 18 Oct '04

18 Oct '04

Hi all, Every once in a while I run into having to answer difficult questions about whether some particular software is Free or not. I am looking for a mailing list to be able to ask/share such questions but I don't know if this is the appropiate one or I should rather try another one at gnu.org. Thanks -- /********************************** ********* Xavier Amatriain ******** ** IUA- Universitat Pompeu Fabra ** ****** www.iua.upf.es/~xamat ****** ***********************************/

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