Discussion February 2003

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Free software and world heritage
by Benoît Sibaud 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

Hi, APRIL and FSF Europe set up a working group to have Free Software classified as an intangible world cultural heritage by UNESCO. http://www.fsfeurope.org/projects/mankind (details, argumentation, links, etc) This project was represented at Libre Software Meeting 2002 (Bordeaux, France): a round table with A. Diakité (UNESCO), P. Aigrain (UE) and I has been organized. And some software have been given to UNESCO (eg GNU project source by RMS). Summary, pictures, slides and report at http://www.fsfeurope.org/projects/mankind/lsm2002/ We also worked on the "World memory" UNESCO project: we sent a submission for "Free Software", which'll be examined in the next months by the project comittee. http://www.unesco.org/webworld/mdm/en/index_mdm.htm How to help? http://www.fsfeurope.org/projects/mankind/help Sincerely, -- Benoît Sibaud "Free Software and World Heritage" http://www.fsfeurope.org/projects/mankind

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License question
by Paolo Gianrossi 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

I was wondering under what kind of license one could release music (i mean real songs, on a CD or something, not computer game music or the like). It could be probably the GPL, but what is "source code" in music? MIDI? WAV? SNG? paper scores? Thx for any help paolino -- ... Observe Good Faith and Justice Toward All Nations, Cultivate Peace and Harmony With All --George Washington's Farewell Address. - Paolo Gianrossi 1999s079(a)educ.disi.unige.it paolino(a)linux.it linsky(a)wappi.com Member of the GNU@DISI project. Students Representative @ DISI, University of Genoa (ITALY)

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Re: Free software and world heritage
by xdrudis＠tinet.org 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

> On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 11:35:51PM +0100, Benoît Sibaud wrote: > > > APRIL and FSF Europe set up a working group to have Free Software > > classified as an intangible world cultural heritage by UNESCO. > > What does "intangible" mean? Something is intangible iff you can't use the sense of touch on it. Most world heritage are buildings, cities, museums, that kind of monumental stone works. Software is a different thing, because it is not material. So most world heritage is tangible, although you shouldn't modifiy it (too much). I don't know about "cultural" world heritage, though. I don't think it has anything to do with anybody not being able to modify free software.

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GPL Issue and the linux kernel
by Alexander Popov 25 Feb '03

25 Feb '03

Hi all, I was wondering if anyone can give me some info on a questionable topic: I reasontly bought a Elitegroup (ECS) laptop distributed with Thiz Linux. The distro CDs did not contain the kernel source, so I requested it from ECS. They refused to give me the code. This code is modified by them in order to fully support the hardware inside the machine. Isn't it illeagal to refuse publishing a GPLed code? Best Regards, -- Alexander Popov RTOS&JVM Team Leader Prosyst Bulgaria, Inc. email: s_popov(a)prosyst.bg mobile: +35987663193 icq: 29207350

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24 Feb '03

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Lenz about Lessig
by Bernhard Reiter 24 Feb '03

24 Feb '03

This link introduces you to two law professors opposing the patent inflation. It's Karl-Friedrich Lenz briefly commenting on Lawrence Lessig's lates column in the Financial Times: http://k.lenz.name/LB/archives/000136.html

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MobiliX.org is now TuxMobil.org
by Werner Heuser 21 Feb '03

21 Feb '03

MobiliX with new name TuxMobil.org *- Please update your bookmarks and help by changing all -* *- the links from mobilix.org to tuxmobil.org -* In the trademark case between the owners of the trademark Obelix and Werner Heuser owner of the project "MobiliX - UniX on Mobile Devices" the last verdict says that Werner Heuser has to withdraw his trademark MobiliX. Therefore he has decided to rename his Open Source project to "TuxMobil" (http://tuxmobil.org). Nevertheless he is already asking the highest German court to permit an appelation against the decision of the latest instance in court. The appelation will take approximately four years. In the meantime the trademark MobiliX can't be used, except he would be able to give a pawn of 200.000 EURO for this time. The lawyers of Werner Heuser Jaschinski, Biere und Brexl - JBB (http://www.jbb.de) are confident to win the last instance. This would also help many other projects. The number of trademarks ending on "ix", which have trouble with Les Edition Albert René is increasing. Many projects can't effort the high financial risk to fight back. In autumn 2001 Les Edition Albert René, the owner of the trademark Obelix has charged Werner Heuser. He is the owner of the wellknown open source project MobiliX (now TuxMobil http://tuxmobil.org) . This project provides a plenty of information about UniX operating systems like Linux, BSD and Solaris on mobile computers. Therefore he has choosen a name, which expresses this by a combination of the words "Mobile" and "iX". According to the plaintiff he has choosen a word very similar to their trademark Obelix, because he wants to take advantage of their famous name. A detailed documentation of the case, containing information about other projects under siege and the written statements of the lawyers JBB, is available online (http://tuxmobil.org/mobilix_asterix.html). -- |=| Werner Heuser = Keplerstr. 11A = D-10589 Berlin = Germany |=| <wehe_AT_tuxmobil.org> T. 0049 - (0)30 - 349 53 86 |=| http://TuxMobil.org UniX on Mobile Systems: HOWTOs,Software |*| This is no time for phony rhetoric -- Lou Reed

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imagine... (re Software Patents)
by Seth Johnson 20 Feb '03

20 Feb '03

(Forwarded from Patents list) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Patents] imagine... Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:18:15 +0100 From: Erik Josefsson <erikjosefsson(a)telia.com> To: patents(a)aful.org Just an unimplementable idea? Imagine we would have 25 MEPs gathered to listen to one speaker, assisted by one or two computer professionals (really fast guys). Then take 7 minutes of speaking time to ask the MEPs to invent something, simply by asking them (holding up a portable computer) "What would you like this machine to do?" Then you would get at least 10 suggestions. During the talk the hackers would pick one of the ideas and implement it. Their work should be displayed on a screen on the side as it progresses. When the talk is finished, the implementation is presented and simple questions asked like if there already exists EPO-patents covering this and how many questions to nature the hackers put when hacking. //Erik

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Software patents. Speak now.
by xdrudis＠tinet.org 19 Feb '03

19 Feb '03

I just wanted to call attention to this message in patents.aful.org saying that the Industry, Research, Trade and Energy committee of the European Parliament is voting tomorrow (20/2/2003) and it is the committee most likely to listen to researchers, free lancers and businesses (if they send a brief fax today). http://www.aful.org/wws/arc/patents/2003-02/msg00022.html http://www.aful.org/wws/arc/patents/2003-02/msg00023.html Xavi Drudis Ferran xdrudis(a)tinet.org

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Re: Switzerland
by Alessandro Rubini 19 Feb '03

19 Feb '03

Thanks to all who replied. I forwarded the information to the interested party, who's willing to set up a free software event in it_CH (forgot to tell about it yesterday, sorry). /alessandro

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