Discussion April 2002

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Re: Microsoft prohibits GPLed work via licensing of CIFS standards
by MJ Ray 07 Apr '02

07 Apr '02

Jeroen Dekkers: > From what I know of AVFS, it's just one big joke. You can do that > already with the Hurd and in way which is much better IMHO. [...] ITYM "hack" not "joke". I know hurd will do better... -- MJR

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Re: Microsoft prohibits GPLed work via licensing of CIFS standards
by MJ Ray 07 Apr '02

07 Apr '02

Xavi Drudis Ferran: > > And then you may want to help AFFS organise its campaign against this > Is your "you" the same as my "you" (i.e. Martin) or am I this "you" ? > I guess you're tañking to Martin, but if I can help somehow, just tell me. I was talking to Martin and any other lurkers like him, but as I think I've said to you in the past, I would appreciate you just keeping an eye on us once in a while and informing us of any new issues or mistakes that we should be aware of. -- MJR

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Microsoft prohibits GPLed work via licensing of CIFS standards
by Martin Keegan 07 Apr '02

07 Apr '02

If there's a solid case, I'm well up for doing the paperwork to submit a formal complaint about this issue to the UK Office of Fair Trading, with whom I was in contact by phone yesterday. What needs to be demonstrated is evidence of abuse of a dominant position. This document linked from Advogato purports to be a combination of a copyright licence (as far as I can see -- and on closer inspection, 3.1 says so) governing copying the Technical Reference document and a patent licence governing implementation of any system which comes under the claims of the patents mentioned. In practical terms, what this is is the US government forcing Microsoft to disclose technical information relating to one of the essential facilities it controls, and Microsoft doing so in such a way as to discriminate against one of its principal competitors. Mk

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Re: Microsoft prohibits GPLed work via licensing of CIFS standards
by MJ Ray 07 Apr '02

07 Apr '02

Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha: > > Will they still, if we have a better alternative? > Most use samba because it's the best alternative for CIFS servicing, not > because CIFS is the best remote filesystem. Indeed. Samba has one feature that I can't replicate in another system except right now: passworded mounting of a remote file store as the current user. > > Surely Samba is normally used during migration. > I don't think so. Some substitute win32 servers for free unix servers, but > remain with win32 clients [...] This is just a step along the migration pathway. > Availability of more secure remote mounts [...] Where? > [...] trying to fight Microsoft then have to provide both server and > clients with support for the same services. I think that is the situation anyway. -- MJR

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Re: Microsoft prohibits GPLed work via licensing of CIFS standards
by xdrudis＠tinet.org 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

> Or you could search prior art. ;-) > I guess you meam for USA citizens. For UE citizens there's a better option. And it does not need to be repeated for each patent that comes across: Dedicate some time to convince your politicians to turn down directive proposal 0047/2002, written mostly by the BSA. At least, if you don't want to talk to politicians, or businesses, institutions or associations, contribute some time to help those who do (translate, gather information, design, maintain sites, contribute money. see http://swpat.ffii.org/vreji/papri/eubsa-swpat0202/index.en.html http://www.eurolinux.org/news/warn01C/index.en.html for accounts of this dirty directive proposal by BSA and EU Comission. And get in contact with eurolinux, the FSFE or other organisations to coordinate your efforts (Caliu in Catalonia). Because I guess everybody has already signed http://petition.eurolinux.org P.S. In fact for USA citizens their better option is to change their patent law, but I can tell less about how to do that.

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Production Mini-plants in mobile containers. Co-investment Program
by The Financial News 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

The Financial News, April 2002 Production Mini-plants in mobile containers. Co-investment Program "...Science Network will supply to countries and developing regions the technology and the necessary support for the production in series of Mini-plants in mobile containers (40-foot). The Mini-plant system is designed in such a way that all the production machinery is fixed on the platform of the container, with all wiring, piping, and installation parts; that is to say, they are fully equipped... and the mini-plant is ready for production." More than 700 portable production systems: Bakeries, Steel Nails, Welding Electrodes, Tire Retreading, Reinforcement Bar Bending for Construction Framework, Sheeting for Roofing, Ceilings and Façades, Plated Drums, Aluminum Buckets, Injected Polypropylene Housewares, Pressed Melamine Items (Glasses, Cups, Plates, Mugs, etc.), Mufflers, Construction Electrically Welded Mesh, Plastic Bags and Packaging, Mobile units of medical assistance, Sanitary Material, Hypodermic Syringes, Hemostatic Clamps, etc. Science Network has started a process of Co-investment for the installation of small Assembly plants to manufacture in series the Mini-plants of portable production on the site, region or country where they may be required. One of the most relevant features is the fact that these plants will be connected to the World Trade System (WTS) with access to more than 50 million raw materials, products and services and automatic transactions for world trade. Because of financial reasons, involving cost and social impact, the right thing to do is to set up assembly plants in the same countries and regions, using local resources (labor, some equipment, etc.) For more information: <A HREF="mailto:reports@the-financial-news.com">Mini-plants in mobile containers</A> By Steven P. Leibacher, The Financial News, Editor Mini-plantas de produccion en contenedores moviles. Programa de Co-inversion "...Science Network suministrara a paises y regiones en vias de desarrollo la tecnologia y el apoyo necesario para la fabricacion en serie de Mini-plantas de produccion en contenedores moviles (40-foot). El sistema de mini-plantas esta diseñado de forma que todas las maquinas de produccion van instaladas fijas sobre la propia plataforma del contenedor, con el cableado, tuberias e instalaciones; es decir, completamente equipadas... y a partir de ese momento están listas para producir." Mas de 700 sistemas de produccion portatil: Panaderias, Producción de clavos de acero, Electrodos para soldadura, Recauchutado de neumaticos, Curvado de hierro para armaduras de construccion, Lamina perfilada para cubiertas, techos y cerramientos de fachada, Bidones de chapa, Cubos de aluminio, Menaje de polipropileno inyectado, Piezas de melamina prensada (vasos, platos, tazas, cafeteras, etc.) Silenciadores para vehiculos, Malla electrosoldada para la construccion, Bolsas y envases de plastico, Unidades moviles de asistencia medica, Material sanitario (jeringas hipodermicas, Pinzas hemostaticas, etc.) Science Network ha puesto en marcha un proceso de Co-inversion para la instalacion de pequeñas Plantas ensambladoras para fabricar en serie las Mini-plantas de produccion portatil, en el lugar, region o pais que lo necesite. Una de las características relevantes es el hecho de que dichas plantas quedaran conectadas al Sistema del Comercio Mundial (WTS) con acceso a mas de 50 millones de mercancias, materia primas, productos, servicios y las operaciones automaticas de comercio internacional. Resulta obvio que por razones economicas, de costes y de impacto social, lo apropiado es instalar plantas ensambladoras en los mismos paises y regiones asi como utilizar los recursos locales (mano de obra, ciertos equipamientos, etc.) Para recibir mas infromacion: <A HREF="mailto:reports@the-financial-news.com">Mini-plantas de produccion en contenedores moviles</A> Steven P. Leibacher, The Financial News, Editor ------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you received this in error or would like to be removed from our list, please return us indicating: remove or un-subscribe in 'subject' field, Thanks. <A HREF="mailto:newsletters@the-financial-news.com"> Editor</A> © 2002 The Financial News. All rights reserved.

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Discussion April 2002