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Fwd: Re: Participation in Tech Showcase at LinuxCon Europe 2014
by rainer 29 Sep '14

29 Sep '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi friends! This is about artwork for booth furnitures at LinuxCon. Can someone of you please take care for it? Best regards Rainer -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlQlJHkACgkQDyZWOna4M3piagCgj/wLC0TMfkZsfoZNokR9nlSV p2YAoKqktuntemAxSzrPmSadT0RvnlJg =gFUO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Participation in Tech Showcase at LinuxCon Europe 2014
by Franz Gratzer 29 Sep '14

29 Sep '14

Hi Phil, thanks for your trust in my abilities, but I think you did a good job anyway. (And I don't have any time left for additional jobs right now.) Best Franz I assume no other "Franz" was addressed since I'm not aware of anybody else with that name on this list. On Fri, 2014-09-26 at 12:00 +0200, Onsemeliot(a)riseup.net wrote: > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Participation in Tech Showcase at LinuxCon Europe > 2014 > Date: 2014-09-26 11:12 > From: Philipp Kammerer <philipp(a)p3k-design.de> > To: rainer <rk(a)office.fsfeurope.org>, designers(a)fsfeurope.org > Cc: dus(a)office.fsfeurope.org, auto-issue(a)dus.office.fsfeurope.org > Reply-To: philipp(a)p3k-design.de > > Hi Rainer, > > Hi all, > > > I did a quick mockup; you may build upon this as I don't have too much > time on such short notice. > Franz: I'm sure you have some ideas to improve this sketch. > > > I hope this helps. > > > Regards, > > Phil > _______________________________________________ > Designers mailing list > Designers(a)fsfeurope.org > https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/designers

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Re: emailselfdefense flyer
by Erik Albers 18 Aug '14

18 Aug '14

Hi Werner, On 22/07/14 19:05, Werner Koch wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 18:37, eal(a)fsfe.org said: > >> http://fsfe.org/about/albers/emailselfdefense/emailselfdefense.inside.de.png > > I already mentioned that to Matze: The blades of the private and the > public key should be different. Even non-geeks will notice that both > keys are identical in function because they know that only the blades > distinguish keys. well, seems like Matze kept this information private because I was not aware of that. Anyway, no problem, I will change the blades. >> TEXT: Every German speaker is encouraged to proofread the text, give >> feedback or improve it. For easy collaboration, I made an etherpad > > I assume that leaflet is not intended for geeks but for all users > including ties. Thus I recommend to replace the informal pronoun "Du" > by "Sie" or avoid its use. We are not Billy shelf selling company. As mentioned in the mail before, I am going to fix that and to use "Sie" in the whole text. Beste Grüße, Erik -- Erik Albers | https://fsfe.org/about/albers Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE) - Campaigns & Community Free as in Freedom!

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[DE] alternate version leaflet FS and tools
by Philipp Kammerer 06 Aug '14

06 Aug '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear designers and legal team, Dear Erik, In March I created a visually new version[1] of the free software and tools leaflet. It is now designed according to our new website layout (colours and fonts). I used text from the English and old and new German version. The German text is currently being revised and I would like to incorporate some of the new text as well. The source file[2] is also available. Erik: I would like to inform you about this before the old ones get printed again. I hope we can join forces here and create a visually more appealing leaflet with a revised text. My question for designers: How does it look? Do you have any suggestions on how to improve the design. For the legal team: How is the contribution done right? I don't know about the original author. Also I'm not sure if it's okay to put my name on it this way. > Herausgeber Free Software Foundation Europe e.V. office(a)fsfe.org > http://fsfe.org > > Gestaltung P3K | Gestaltungstechnik http://p3k-design.de > philipp(a)p3k-design.de > > Druck Umweltdruckerei http://dieumweltdruckerei.de It translates to: > Publisher Free Software Foundation Europe e.V. office(a)fsfe.org > http://fsfe.org > > Design P3K | Gestaltungstechnik http://p3k-design.de > philipp(a)p3k-design.de > > Printed by Umweltdruckerei http://dieumweltdruckerei.de Umweltdruckerei is a green print shop around Hannover. Basically I would like to get a bunch printed there and use them on events and share them with the Munich Fellowship group which I attend to occasionally. But before I do that I would like to ask for your approval and consult if I need to change the text. Of course: If everything approves you may use the flyer as you wish. I would put them in public domain or use a creative commons license; whichever fits the fsfe best. Many kind regards, Phil 1: http://download.fsfe.org//advocacy/leaflets/leaflet-fs-and-tools_2014.pdf 2: http://download.fsfe.org//advocacy/leaflets/leaflet-fs-and-tools_2014.sla - -- P3K | Gestaltungstechnik www.p3k-design.de GPG/PGP: 0xE008D5B0 Treffen Sie mich im Büro in Schliersee: www.p3k-design.de/typoshop#location Philipp Kammerer Tel: +49 - (0)8026 - 780 48 75 Rathausstraße 14 Mobile: +49 - (0)172 - 623 68 89 D-83734 Hausham Connect: https://wk3.org/u/p3kdesign DE-BY / Germany XMPP: p3k-design(a)jabber.org Bitte senden Sie mir keine Word- oder PowerPoint-Anhänge. Siehe http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.de.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAlPiDU4ACgkQc7dt7OAI1bCwNACfc7U42bnTNqQ7UPwQuPa6EjVy 4xYAn3rCmttCIsyywHkmRrtbXD8MsZnj =Lg6T -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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emailselfdefense flyer
by Erik Albers 05 Aug '14

05 Aug '14

Dear all, we are producing an emailselfdefense-flyer. The original version [1] was made by the FSF and published under CC-license. So we make a remix, a FSFE version that uses our design and does promotion for us. Target group: All those people that do not know about GnuPG and maybe even not about Free Software. So, the content is very basic and it should self-motivate people to get more information instead of having all information inside. First use: Freedom not Fear demonstration on August 30, a very big demonstration agains mass surveillance here in Germany. Therefore, To have the flyer done and ready for the demonstration, I will order them next week. Therefore, I would like to share my final draft version with you. You can download the PNG files for now from the SVN, here: http://fsfe.org/about/albers/emailselfdefense/emailselfdefense.front.de.png http://fsfe.org/about/albers/emailselfdefense/emailselfdefense.inside.de.png (just temporarily and deleted next week) I would like to ask you for your feedback about TEXT: Every German speaker is encouraged to proofread the text, give feedback or improve it. For easy collaboration, I made an etherpad about the text: https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/emailselfdefense-flyertext Please proofread or give comments. I wrote half a page myself and I have rewritten parts of the FSF DESIGN: please share your thoughts about the design, the colors, the pictures that have been used. Please do not care about detail by now (like "the background of page 1 and 4 do not fit correctly"). I will take care of that. But I first would like to fix the text. And when the text will be changed, their surrounding boxes also will be changed, than maybe the background ... That means that all design-details will be fixed as the last step of the whole process. So, please, by know, concerning design just let me know how you like it in general, the colours and the symbols etc. thanks for your contributions, Erik [1] https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/emailselfdefense_source.zip -- Erik Albers | https://fsfe.org/about/albers Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE) - Campaigns & Community Free as in Freedom!

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Re: "crypto certificates" (Re: emailselfdefense flyer)
by Karsten Gerloff 29 Jul '14

29 Jul '14

On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 01:02:00PM +0200, Max Mehl wrote: > # Bernhard Reiter <bernhard(a)intevation.de> [29.07.2014 @ 12:03]: > > On Saturday 26 July 2014 at 14:02:45, John Darrington wrote: > >> > >> I have never heard the word "certificate" used to refer to a PGP key. > > > > Having two terms for the same thing is bringing more confusion > > than understanding. A key itself is useless without the extra data, including > > the signatures. The whole difficulty is in the "certification" part. > > Your arguments come from the perspective of the tiny subset of crypto aware > > computer users, that know more details, too many details as are necessary of > > usage. > > You may be right with your definition and its implications if we use two terms > for the technically same thing -- I'm not able to judge in this discussion. > > But if we use the term "certificate" in the leaflets, I'm sure that novice users > will be confused during the setup of their GnuPG infrastructure. For example > Enigmail (a tool which many beginners will use) only uses the term "keys" and > emailselfdefense (to which we refer for installation guidelines) as well. I'll have to agree with Max here. Basically every single howto for GnuPG and other crypto tools that I've seen so far talks about "keys" rather than "certificates". Since the flyers are aimed at people with no great technical expertise in the area, we probably want to use terms that enable them to find additional help in the (very likely) case they need it. Best regards, Karsten -- Karsten Gerloff [ ] <gerloff(a)fsfeurope.org> Free Software Foundation Europe [ ][ ][ ] [http://fsfe.org] President | | +49 176 9690 4298 Support software freedom! [http://fsfe.org/support] Free Software Foundation Europe e.V. is a German Verein registered at the Registergericht Hamburg (VR 17030).

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Re: emailselfdefense flyer
by Erik Albers 24 Jul '14

24 Jul '14

Hi Bernhard, On 24/07/14 14:29, Bernhard Reiter wrote: > On Wednesday 23 July 2014 at 18:47:33, Erik Albers wrote: >> http://fsfe.org/about/albers/emailselfdefense/emailselfdefense2.front.de.png >> > http://fsfe.org/about/albers/emailselfdefense/emailselfdefense2.inside.de.p… > > My feedback: > > Please use "certificate" where appropriate, if you can, a (public) key alone > is not enough and a very technical view. Speaking of "public certificate" > and "secret certificate" can help to non-technical people to understand faster > and it is more consistent with other crypto systems like S/MIME or TLS. I don't think so. Most of the times people do not even understand when I use the word "license" (in Software context). Using "certificate" seems even more bureaucratic/lawyer-like than "license". A key on the other hand everybody knows what it is used for: lock and open Best, Erik -- Erik Albers | https://fsfe.org/about/albers Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE) - Campaigns & Community Free as in Freedom!

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Re: emailselfdefense flyer
by Erik Albers 24 Jul '14

24 Jul '14

On 23/07/14 19:12, Max Mehl wrote: >> Then maybe it makes sense to have an extra box for it? >> Or is it ok, because all these programs and how to install them is written @ >> https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/de and we have this link for people who want >> to know more? > > I'm a bit sceptical that people who are interested in that will automatically > open this link. Maybe we should mention that there're also installation > instructions for every system and not only "learn email self defense". > What do you think? yes, I agree. That would be better phrased: "learn how to install and use GnuPG in 30 minutes for your emailself defense" ... >>> I noticed that you only used the informal "du"/"dein" instead of "Du"/"Dein" >>> like it should be written in personal letters. Is this intended? If so, please >>> fix these words in the standard "about FSFE" part as it is written differently >>> there. >> >> Thanks for the hint. The text that is used in the flyer is deriving about 70 >> percent from the original flyer by the FSF. And they have been using "Du". >> While the text "about FSFE" is based on our own text and we usually use "Sie". >> I am going to fix that. [1] >> >> [1] despite the fact I like "Du" more because it sounds more direct and >> motivating. > > Well okay, I was only implying that "Du" instead of "du" would be the better > choice. But if we want to address important business people as well, we should > stick to the formal "Sie". ah, ok. Actually, I am also in favor of producing both versions for different audiences? For example a package to the Parliament should use "Sie", while a flyer for a demo better adresses "Du", no? > But please have another look at the capital letter, especially in "Ihren". There > are several parts where the first letter is small. I would have changed it > myself but the version in the pad isn't up-to-date. Are you sure that you write every "Ihren" with a capital letter? Best, Erik -- Erik Albers | https://fsfe.org/about/albers Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE) - Campaigns & Community Free as in Freedom!

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Re: emailselfdefense flyer
by Erik Albers 23 Jul '14

23 Jul '14

Hi Max, On 22/07/14 19:00, Max Mehl wrote: > First of all I suggest mentioning the Windows pendant "Gpg4win" in the flyer. > Many people search for GnuPG for their Windows computers but only find cryptic > source code (forgive me, coders ;) ) or this software. Because we teach them to > be kind of paranoid, they could hesitate downloading Ggp4win because they have > no trust in a differently named program. thanks, you have a point in that. You have any idea where exactly we shall mention it? And what about mac? Then we should mention GPGtools, too. What about Enigmail, shall we mention that? Then maybe it makes sense to have an extra box for it? Or is it ok, because all these programs and how to install them is written @ https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/de and we have this link for people who want to know more? Any opinions here? > # Erik Albers [22.07.2014 @ 18:37]: >> I would like to ask you for your feedback about >> >> TEXT: Every German speaker is encouraged to proofread the text, give >> feedback or improve it. For easy collaboration, I made an etherpad about >> the text: >> https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/emailselfdefense-flyertext >> Please proofread or give comments. I wrote half a page myself and I have >> rewritten parts of the FSF > > I finished my proofreading and fixed some small bugs and also deleted some > unnecessary words. > > I noticed that you only used the informal "du"/"dein" instead of "Du"/"Dein" > like it should be written in personal letters. Is this intended? If so, please > fix these words in the standard "about FSFE" part as it is written differently > there. Thanks for the hint. The text that is used in the flyer is deriving about 70 percent from the original flyer by the FSF. And they have been using "Du". While the text "about FSFE" is based on our own text and we usually use "Sie". I am going to fix that. [1] Beste Grüße, Erik [1] despite the fact I like "Du" more because it sounds more direct and motivating. -- Erik Albers | https://fsfe.org/about/albers Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE) - Campaigns & Community Free as in Freedom!

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Re: How to get Dutch "tools leaflet" (pre-)printed?
by Felix C. Stegerman 16 May '14

16 May '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 2014-05-06 17:44, Matthias Kirschner wrote: > Hi Sam, > > * Felix C. Stegerman <flx(a)fsfe.org> [2014-05-06 08:29:59 +0200]: > >> I finally finished the Dutch translation of the "tools leaflet" >> [1]. Since it's based on an in-progress version of the English >> one, it needs a little work. I gather the size needs to be >> adjusted and it needs to be pre-printed. >> >> So what do I do now? Maurice and I were hoping to get it >> printed before the 15th (if possible). > > [...] > >> [1] https://gist.github.com/obfusk/5ad471befc5f04161a38 > > Could you help Felix here? And while doing it document it? Can anyone help me out with this? Sam? Matthias? Anyone else? I can probably do the work myself; I just need to know what that entails. - - Felix - -- Felix C. Stegerman vice-coordinator, dutch fellowship group free software foundation europe https://wiki.fsfe.org/groups/BNL -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTcA5jAAoJELIY/ywn/GzG00MP+wQxDS9zCSMGGQoWpjwy9H5c 7UVLhxzFry2pzCxOSYGCxzBfs5qlxUwqJl9Q8GLIKC73zm/UfpkZ9p/OYPoM//BM B6h1Z+wOggLROk8BdyiYipn+eK9UJLMA2LX43fHhh0XPn3j6BheZ8cU9Y8ivuO82 cSJv1JcfoVuiepZEVm8zAznEbR8M+LRey9kp5Kg3TTb1acrMN+RU+EA0IoLibyfo VNLdB3p7xe2mzRO4UbSaICVdI0EpeZR/87UFiBQV/lmbO+9dUkoCHUD2f6sAOoh/ 8Aybc5dx7vG23hbU2Wga9P22XkUkjqe32Z82UJFVbJ2u8dTqelj/ShGA0JJeg9+G Vn+fCpY52pdlpl33fG/o1vVeRYwZbJDOqf5SmzsZWvhj5syjlCbAEIL0dk9qmwov WQhuTnCCekZFEus4E//ZaOx9PAocuMlpO7MAP9T2bT1ZdAqrWXlvV+eeIhBDj30u l4lsUD3PAp2yJMEb2mb0n/8YOpiT76syYXCk6D/bSffWD73gch+c2ya9FgamQ7Rh hTDTDDQhLHyubvlgmbLLBUM5JRLYRAhn807o7BpL/wve2AbZ78ud4nenN/YySl0o 7EZHFD4xhucuw/CCpXBC0Voqkzz2X8yzrZLOfc6xdgGM1t/z4hS957FP1zKlXxLB izlYaV1JoWkJ9JCDiOoW =j+ob -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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