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<p>Well I started at age of 14 with books but it was 2004.</p>
<p>I think that is true what are you saying but to me is that it is
very rare to find students that learn development outside school
like us.</p>
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">What is missing, IMHO, is some kind of better support structure for
those who start at a much younger age, unrelated to any school
curriculum or the like. If they don't happen to meet a mentor or be the
kind of autodidactic person that always teaches themselves everything
from books, it can be hard.</pre>
<p>This is the real good point of this. It is something that I saw
for the Italy case on ILS when I had a call with people under 35~
years. <br>
Also at university they need mentors maybe the new generations
need more mentors compared to before as the technology is more
complex then before?<br>
Maybe also to understand that you cannot talk everywhere like
Instagram but Issues/Emails/Forum are important tools.</p>
As ILS now I am doing kind of "activities" to contribute to open
source, taking as base this
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://community.mozilla.org/en/activities/contributing-to-common-voice/">https://community.mozilla.org/en/activities/contributing-to-common-voice/</a>
as university students and user groups prefer this kind of tutorials
non-techie and easy to approach if alone or in a group of people.
<p>In the end I am curious about that contest but not so much
optimistic but happy to be withdraw.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 11/10/21 16:10, Harald Welte ha
scritto:<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Hi Daniele,
On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 12:35:56PM +0200, Daniele "Mte90" Scasciafratte wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">As I know in the Italian case at that age is difficult that you know how to develop in something a bit more complex about what they teach at school and also they have no idea what is Git.
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I started development at the age of 10, by 14 I had learned Pascal + x86
assembly programming and was releasing some shareware [because I did not
yet know about FOSS!], at 16 Perl and C and contributing to FOSS.
And this was ages ago, i.e. long before IT was as big as it is today.
Yes, this is not the "norm", but I definitely know a lot of talented
folks (in and out of FOSS) who also started very early in their youth to
do development.
I really think there is quite some potential to try to get those people
involved with FOSS early. Being a talented / young developer doesn't
mean that you automatically get sufficiently exposed to FOSS as a
underlying methodology and ideology.
If your approach is to rely on the knowledge that school is teaching
students [and think people would need to learn more after the basics
were taught in school], then that is just following a normal school +
university curriculum. There are plenty of those out there.
What is missing, IMHO, is some kind of better support structure for
those who start at a much younger age, unrelated to any school
curriculum or the like. If they don't happen to meet a mentor or be the
kind of autodidactic person that always teaches themselves everything
from books, it can be hard.
YH4F is more about a contest / award than about mentoring from what I
can tell, but nevertheless I think YH4F is an interesting project. I'm
definitely looking forward to see what kind of submissions we'll
receive. I'd imagine the extra cash definitely comes in handy for the
usual teenager budget to buy more hardware for hacking, books, etc.
Regards,
Harald
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