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    Sure but uf you're using FB to spread the word on privacy and
    freesoftware,  you probably get mocked or trolled and when this sort
    of thing breaks the news headlines,  you can smugly say 'told you
    so' <br>
    <br>
    I have said this before sometimes I think you need to join the enemy
    in order to spread your view point.   You don't even need to engate
    with people that much just have regular posts to FB people will
    follow youk and those of us who understand the argument will use the
    other usual methods to engage.   <br>
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    Paul<br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/03/18 09:38, C. Cossé wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">To me it's a question of consistency:  does FSFE
        not agree with FSF?  RMS says "absolutely no to Facebook", so
        then?  <br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 3:32 AM, David
          Gerard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dgerard@gmail.com"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">dgerard@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The
            problem with Facebook is that it's the worst bar in town and
            the<br>
            bouncers are horrible, but it's also the only one where you
            can find<br>
            everyone.<br>
            <br>
            So the question is its tactical usefulness for outreach
            versus its awfulness.<br>
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                On 23 March 2018 at 09:20, Jonke Suhr <<a
                  href="mailto:suhrj@fsfe.org" moz-do-not-send="true">suhrj@fsfe.org</a>>
                wrote:<br>
                > Hey all,<br>
                ><br>
                > irregardless of the split in our community between
                privacy pragmatists<br>
                > and privacy absolutists, I think we should take
                note of this step<br>
                > Mozilla has taken, as I believe FSFE still has a
                Facebook page (last<br>
                > active on September 21st as far as I can
                ascertain).<br>
                ><br>
                >> Dear global community we’ve had the opportunity
                to interact with over the past several years here:<br>
                >><br>
                >> We’re taking a break from Facebook.<br>
                >><br>
                >> At Mozilla we champion platforms and
                technologies that are good for the web and good for the
                people that use it.<br>
                >> We stand up for transparency and user control
                because they make the web healthier for us all.<br>
                >><br>
                >> That’s why we are pressing pause on any
                Facebook activity. Mark Zuckerberg has just promised to
                improve Facebook’s settings and make them more
                protective, which is a start! Please do that! But we
                can’t help but think we’ve heard it before, so we’re
                still going to wait and see what materializes before we
                resume spending our ad dollars or time here.<br>
                >><br>
                >> IN THE MEANTIME:<br>
                >> If you need support for Firefox or want to
                tweet at us, you can find us here: <a
                  href="https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://support.mozilla.org/<wbr>en-US/</a><br>
                >> and <a href="https://twitter.com/mozilla"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://twitter.com/mozilla</a><br>
                ><br>
                > (Non-tracked link to the source:<br>
                > <a
href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180323091845/https://de-de.facebook.com/mozilla/posts/10156139176287381"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://web.archive.org/web/<wbr>20180323091845/https://de-de.<wbr>facebook.com/mozilla/posts/<wbr>10156139176287381</a>)<br>
                ><br>
                > What do you guys think?<br>
                ><br>
                > Best regards,<br>
                ><br>
                > Jonke<br>
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