<div dir="ltr">I accidentally did not "reply all" this morning when sending this ...<br><br><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Charles Cossé</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ccosse@gmail.com">ccosse@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 6:17 AM<br>Subject: Re: Project to stimulate Edu-FLOSS development<br>To: Bastien Guerry <<a href="mailto:bzg@gnu.org">bzg@gnu.org</a>><br><br><br><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Bastien & All,<br><br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 1:26 AM, Bastien Guerry <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bzg@gnu.org" target="_blank">bzg@gnu.org</a>></span> wrote:<span class="m_-5400189081909434362gmail-"></span><br><span class="m_-5400189081909434362gmail-"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="m_-5400189081909434362gmail-">
</span>I am not sure I completely grasp the relations between users and<br>
developers in your idea.  </blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Here is an ASCII diagram which needs to be viewed in fixed-width font:<br></div><br><div><font face="monospace,monospace">+-----------------------------<wbr>+<br>|                             |<br>| EDU-FLS DEVELOPER COMMUNITY |<br>|                             |<br>|  Dual-Purposed Javascript   |<br>|       FLS Activities        |<br>|                             |<br>| 1. As Activity Plugin:      |<br>|                             |<br>|     Busking For Percentages |<br>|     Of Subscription Fees    |<br>|     Creates Incentive       |<br>|                             |<br>|  2.Indep of Online Website  |<br>|    Listed in FSD            |<br>|                             |<br>+-----------------------------<wbr>+<br><br>+-----------------------------<wbr>+<br>|                             |<br>|       ONLINE WEBSITE        |<br>|                             |<br>|   *Subscription Service*    |<br>|                             |<br>| Whitelisted by DEVICE@HOME  |<br>|     Credit-Transfer API     |<br>|-----------------------------<wbr>|<br>|                             |<br>|   +---------------------+   |<br>|   |  DEVELOPER ACCOUNT  |   |<br>|   |---------------------|   |<br>|   | Maintain Activities |   |<br>|   |                     |   |<br>|   |  Interact w/Users   |   |<br>|   |                     |   |<br>|   |   Get Compensated   |   |<br>|   |                     |   |<br>|   |---------------------|   |<br>|                             |<br>|   +---------------------+   |<br>|   |    PARENT ACCOUNT   |   |<br>|   |---------------------|   |<br>|   | Login from Anywhere |   |<br>|   |                     |   |<br>|   | Configure & Queue   |   |<br>|   |      Activities     |   |<br>|   |NoSQL w/Credits,Queue|   |<br>|   |                     |   |<br>|   |Subscription Distri- |   |<br>|   |  -bution Interface  |   |<br>|   +---------------------+   |<br>|                             |<br>|   +---------------------+   |<br>|   |     KID ACCOUNT     |   |<br>|   |---------------------|   |<br>|   |   Login from Home   |   |<br>|   |                     |   |<br>|   | Complete Activities |   |<br>|   |       In Queue      |   |<br>|   |NoSQL w/Credits,Queue|   |<br>|   +---------------------+   |<br>|                             |<br>+-----------------------------<wbr>+<br><br>+-----------------------------<wbr>+<br>|                             |<br>|        DEVICE @ HOME        |<br>|                             |<br>|      WiFi Access Point      |<br>|     Firewall w/Whitelist    |<br>|     Credit-Transfer API     |<br>|                             |<br>|       Local Web Server      |<br>|-----------------------------<wbr>|<br>|                             |<br>|                             |<br>|   +---------------------+   |<br>|   |      KID ACCOUNT    |   |<br>|   |---------------------|   |<br>|   |  Credit-Meter UI    |   |<br>|   |                     |   |<br>|   | NoSQL w/Credits,List|   |<br>|   | of Devices: XBox etc|   |<br>|   +---------------------+   |<br>|                             |<br>+-----------------------------<wbr>+<br></font><br></div><div>The device at home is a tool for parents.  A parent could award<br></div><div>credits for doing dishes, for example.  The kid needs to access<br></div><div>the internet via the device.  But the device runs a firewall which <br></div><div>only lets them access whitelisted sites unless they use credits.<br></div><div>To use credits they browse to the website broadcast by the device<br></div><div>and run the "credit-meter" web application.  It's just a Javascript<br></div><div>application which controls the firewall and manages their credit<br></div><div>balance.<br><br></div><div>The online website lets them earn credits by completing activities.<br></div><div>The parent can configure and assign them from work, and the kids<br></div><div>can get there from home because the device's firewall allows access<br></div><div>to that site, i.e. the site is whitelisted.  <br></div><div><br></div><div>It turns out that kids will do anything for those credits, and thus there<br></div><div>is this huge potential to supplement their education through these<br></div><div>activities.  It's different that Kahn academy, for example, because<br></div><div>this compels them to make an effort.   Their motivation is to earn <br>credits for internet access, but the end result is still that they focus<br></div><div>and make a real effort.<br><br></div><div>If there were a bunch of good activities then this would be a service<br></div><div>worth paying for.  How to attract contributors?  What's in it for them?<br></div><div>Require the parents to pay a subscription for unlimited access, but<br></div><div>allow them to distribute their subscription to the developers of their <br></div><div>choice.  It creates a new market for education software, bringing <br></div><div>the parent and developer communities together and keeping the<br></div><div>interaction between them alive due to healthy competition for some<br></div><div>percentage of those subscription fees.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The ultimate goal is to create a whole bunch of new Edu-FLS.  Thus<br></div><div>it seems reasonable that FSF would be interested to run a campaign<br></div><div>advocating the whole thing.  The rest is details that have solutions.<br></div><span class=""><div><br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Would you like me to set up a call with Lionel Laské about Sugarizer<br>
and your ideas?<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Yes, that would be great!  I will send a separate email ...<br></div><span class=""><div> <span class="m_-5400189081909434362gmail-"></span><br><span class="m_-5400189081909434362gmail-"></span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="m_-5400189081909434362gmail-">
</span>I'm skeptical on whether it's worth looking for endorsement, would it<br>
be from FSF, FSFE or any other organization.<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>My thinking is that if RMS agrees that it's a good thing, and authorizes<br></div><div>an FSF campaign, then the important message is sent and FSF/* can<br></div><div>consider participation.<br></div><span class=""><span class="m_-5400189081909434362gmail-"></span><br><span class="m_-5400189081909434362gmail-"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="m_-5400189081909434362gmail-">
</span>Let me understand more about the "equation" in a call some day!<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>I would definitely like to talk by phone.  I will send that separate email.<br><br></div><div>Thanks,<br></div><div>-Charles<br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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